Baptists are killing themselves!

[Lilith]

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061209/COMMUNITY03/212090331

I believe as we get more and more politically correct and more compromising, we are losing what so many before us stood and died for.

from article.

I thought baptists were people of the word. Truth bearers. Even when it was uncomfortable you could always count on the baptists to stand their ground.

In a world where men are less men and we become sooo sensitive to everyone elses cultures that we cannot even say "Merry Christmas" in many of our malls, it is no wonder that baptist churches are filling up with all these liberal A.C.L.U. feminine type baptists.

I say "Let em go"! They don't deserve the name "Baptist".

We are diverse and yes we don't always get along. But we are who we are! If we succumb to this type of pressure we will be assimilated!

And I say everyone deserves the right to love and be loved by God...liberal or not...It's discrimination and bigotry taught be organized religion that is tearing the human race apart, not Satan.
Live and, let live.

 

[gerald285]

While I am a member of abaptist church and hwas baptized by a Baptist preacher I am not so sure that being baptist holds the standard. I would prefer if simply being a Christian was enough.

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061209/COMMUNITY03/212090331

I believe as we get more and more politically correct and more compromising, we are losing what so many before us stood and died for.

from article.

I thought baptists were people of the word. Truth bearers. Even when it was uncomfortable you could always count on the baptists to stand their ground.

In a world where men are less men and we become sooo sensitive to everyone elses cultures that we cannot even say "Merry Christmas" in many of our malls, it is no wonder that baptist churches are filling up with all these liberal A.C.L.U. feminine type baptists.

I say "Let em go"! They don't deserve the name "Baptist".

We are diverse and yes we don't always get along. But we are who we are! If we succumb to this type of pressure we will be assimilated!

 

[StraightAndNarrow]

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061209/COMMUNITY03/212090331

I believe as we get more and more politically correct and more compromising, we are losing what so many before us stood and died for.

from article.

I thought baptists were people of the word. Truth bearers. Even when it was uncomfortable you could always count on the baptists to stand their ground.

In a world where men are less men and we become sooo sensitive to everyone elses cultures that we cannot even say "Merry Christmas" in many of our malls, it is no wonder that baptist churches are filling up with all these liberal A.C.L.U. feminine type baptists.

I say "Let em go"! They don't deserve the name "Baptist".

We are diverse and yes we don't always get along. But we are who we are! If we succumb to this type of pressure we will be assimilated!

The article is referring to conservative, fundamentalist Baptists not moderate Baptists. As Jimmy Carter says in his new book, our country's morality is being bestroyed by the fundamentalists who seem to be more interested in political power than winning the lost to Christ.

 

[Joseph M. Smith]

We get asked some pretty amazing questions at many of the other churches, including Baptist:

1. Does the Bible really say Mary was a virgin?
2. Where are the Ten Commandments?
3. What's the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament?
4. Do you have to be born again to go to heaven? Can't you just be a good person and do good things?

These, and many like them, are from adults, folks -- adults in Christian churches who take the name of Christian.

It was because of this type of thing that Barry and I sat down a few years ago to ask ourselves "What should our goal be in these presentations?" And we decided that we would NOT focus on evangelism, but, rather, on building up the body of Christ -- that, to us, seemed to be in an almost emergency status.

Several years ago as a pastor I recognized the Biblical illiteracy among my people, and started what I called a "Christian Basics" class on Sunday mornings, a new Sunday School class. More than 30 people showed up to begin this enterprise, some of them church officers and a couple of them deacons, all saying that they realized they knew very little about the Bible.

I began by introducing the organization of the Bible and speaking about its origins. I said something about the Old and New Testaments, and someone said, "Pastor, excuse me ... Testament? What's that?". I realized that I really did have to start at the very beginning ... B I B L E, this is a Bible, etc.!!

Did the same course twice more in that church and am doing it again in the church where, in retirement, I try to make some worthy contributions.

 

[blackbird]

I began by introducing the organization of the Bible and speaking about its origins. I said something about the Old and New Testaments, and someone said, "Pastor, excuse me ... Testament? What's that?". I realized that I really did have to start at the very beginning ... B I B L E, this is a Bible, etc.!!

You did?? Really??? Son! Tell me you're liein'!!!!!!:BangHead: :BangHead:

 

[Lilith]

The article is referring to conservative, fundamentalist Baptists not moderate Baptists. As Jimmy Carter says in his new book, our country's morality is being bestroyed by the fundamentalists who seem to be more interested in political power than winning the lost to Christ.

Have you ever heard of seperation of church and state? God has no place in politics.

 

[El_Guero]

If one's 'politics' are devoid of God, then one's politics will burn in hell . . .

I would rather build things upon this earth with a view towards eternity and God's politic than to just build a politic haphazardly and 'hope' it is good enough.

Jus' my 2 cents . . .

Have you ever heard of seperation of church and state? God has no place in politics.

 

[guitarpreacher]

Have you ever heard of seperation of church and state? God has no place in politics.

Seems I did read something about that once. Let's see..... O yeah, it was in the constitution

of the former Soviet Union.

 

[Joseph M. Smith]

You did?? Really??? Son! Tell me you're liein'!!!!!!:BangHead: :BangHead:

I assume your tongue is firmly in your cheek on this response.

But since you asked, no, it is the truth. And actually what it drove me to do was to get back to -- forgive the technical term -- epistemology. I found that I needed to push the class to consider how we know anything. We looked at historiography, bias, even the Cartesian "cogito ergo sum" solution, and then put the Bible in that context rather than simply demanding that people believe the Bible because of an a priori assumption about verbal inspiration.

 

[Soulman]

Lots of opnion, most of which stinks, but hey, you're entitled. Nothing you can back up with Scripture.

Please guitarpreacher, show me where I am wrong. What actually stinks?

 

[Soulman]

Only thing I can figure is ya'll are too dumb to understand it or too hard-hearted to care about lost people.

That is an opinion that really does stink! It is dumb to place the truth of Gods Word above all else? It is dumb not to join with those that oppose the truth? We do care about the lost. That is why I stand for Gods Word and not for this Ecumenical movement that will simply lead down the path of religion.

 

[Soulman]

Quoted by guitarpreacher: Romans 14:4 "Who are you to condemn someone else’s servants? They are responsible to the Lord, so let him judge whether they are right or wrong. And with the Lord’s help, they will do what is right and will receive his approval." End quote

I don't judge anyone. It's not my place. I stand against false teaching, religion and the god of this world. Jesus wanted us to be one as He is with the father. That means agreed!

 

[guitarpreacher]

Quoted by guitarpreacher: Romans 14:4 "Who are you to condemn someone else’s servants? They are responsible to the Lord, so let him judge whether they are right or wrong. And with the Lord’s help, they will do what is right and will receive his approval." End quote

I don't judge anyone. It's not my place. I stand against false teaching, religion and the god of this world. Jesus wanted us to be one as He is with the father. That means agreed!

And because we don't have the word Baptist in our church name (what this thread is about, in case you missed it) we are standing for false teaching??? For someone who says they are not judging you sound really judgmental

 

[guitarpreacher]

That is an opinion that really does stink! It is dumb to place the truth of Gods Word above all else? It is dumb not to join with those that oppose the truth? We do care about the lost. That is why I stand for Gods Word and not for this Ecumenical movement that will simply lead down the path of religion.

You have not given one verse of Scripture to back up your opinion. Show me in Bible where it says music you don't like is garbage. While your at it, can you go ahead and clue us all in on the Biblical position on the following types: Rock, Reggae, Disco, Jazz (Dixieland style), Jazz (Progressive style), Big band, Bluegrass, Folk, Country, Celtic, Classical, Marches, Swing, Polka, Grunge, Opera, and Broadway style show tunes.

And who said anything about joining the Ecumenical movement? You seem to be an expert at what motivates us to do what we do. I can only speak for CrossPointe Church, but as far as we're concerned, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

 

[rbell]

So, is 100% agreement on all issues the benchmark?

If so, hole up. It's every man for himself.

Let's be wise...there are essentials, then there are non-essentials..."In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity." (J. Wesley)