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Biden tells another whopper

Scott Downey

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Hopefully Harris will keep Biden from fingering the nuclear missile launch code buttons.
He might someday think it is a new toy.
 

JonC

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Yes, the order does matter for the argument here. His later words were obfuscation, nothing even close to clarification, unless you are now referring to something else he said after the townhall. But that’s not the real point here.

The point is that the Dems and their MSM are all about obfuscation and double standard. The point is that they don’t like it when they get a taste of their own medicine. If anything, Biden is far worse than Trump when it comes to telling it right, but the Dems and their MSM aren’t going to treat Biden like they did Trump. And Cooper easily could have helped the aged Biden clarify, but did nothing of the sort.

This is all about calling out the Dems and the Dem MSM for their ultra-hypocritical double standard.
I understand. The Democrats said the same thing about President Trump defending/ explaining his words.

To be fair, this standard had to be applied equally. The Democrats understood Biden's clarification, but the Republican's remain confused. The Republicans understood Trump's clarifications, but the Democrats remain confused.

I do not like the Democrats at all. I liked Trump, but am not a Republican. I understand what both men were saying, and personally I think that the confusion on both sides is willful confusion. As such, I think it goes back to integrity (not of Trump or Biden, but of the people who are willfully "confused" about their words).

This is why I no longer vote or associate with the GOP. Politics + Christianity = Politics. It makes, and has made, Christians dishonest people rather than the Light that God saved them to be.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Things said by Biden during one outing. They will not be able to cover for him. He has no filter. Some things he says here are blatantly racist, because Joe. His only redeeming quality is comic relief.
Sorry, the links did not copy, here is the source. btw, are we going to be editing things said by Biden on newscasts? Just curious.

‘Where The Hell Are We?’ — Biden said some crazy shite during townhall…
Not sure how to take it, but I rather like this one:

“Everybody knows I like kids better than people.” --Biden, barely a minute and half into the same CNN townhall as the OP.​
 

JonC

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Not the same thing no matter how you try to twist it. No one has lied. I can explain it to you but I cant understand it for you.

Biden lied, realized it wasnt a good idea tried to find a way to move it in a different direction. He has a ling history of doing that. Again his dishonesty cost him the presidential race previously. This is not new for him.
The argument is simple. As the DNC said, Trump did tell the Proud Boy's to "stand by, stand ready". Later Trump tried to back away from the comment by saying he did not know who the Proud Boy's were. But in the end, the answer is Trump was calling them to stand by, stand ready for his call for them to "Go to the Capital and fight like hell". This is proof that Trump was a traitor to our nation.....at least by YOUR standard applied to Trump it is.

Again, this is the issue that we get when Christians become disciples of any political leader or party. They become dishonest or they become sheeple...blindly following and repeating their "shepherds".
 

Wingman68

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[VIDEO] OWNED BY BEIJING: Biden Openly Defends Chinese Genocide, "Forceful" Totalitarianism As "Cultural Norm" During CNN Townhall...China's President Really "Gets It!"

Genocide is a cultural norm, according to Biden. Guess that makes our 5 dem governors who genocided the nursing homes, examples of what we should just accept now. He rewards them for their service actually, just put Whitmer second in command of the DNC, so she could keep doing yeoman (or yeowoman) work for the cause here in Michigan.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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I understand. The Democrats said the same thing about President Trump defending/ explaining his words.

To be fair, this standard had to be applied equally. The Democrats understood Biden's clarification, but the Republican's remain confused. The Republicans understood Trump's clarifications, but the Democrats remain confused.

I do not like the Democrats at all. I liked Trump, but am not a Republican. I understand what both men were saying, and personally I think that the confusion on both sides is willful confusion. As such, I think it goes back to integrity (not of Trump or Biden, but of the people who are willfully "confused" about their words).

This is why I no longer vote or associate with the GOP. Politics + Christianity = Politics. It makes, and has made, Christians dishonest people rather than the Light that God saved them to be.
Guess my perception of politics in America is much different. No other president in my lifetime has ever been as poorly treated as Trump. There is just no comparison. None. Trump is not like a standard Republican, and certainly not like a standard politician. That’s why so many voters have appreciated him and why the swamp has so hated him.

The MSM have always leaned heavily Dem, but now they and those they serve are on a rampage. Trump is just an excuse—there is no doubt that their agenda is totalitarian. Biden was even defending the Chinese Communist dictator in that townhall. The Dems are hypocrites in the extreme and hate American ideals. And too many RINOs are helping them destroy America.
 

Revmitchell

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The argument is simple. As the DNC said, Trump did tell the Proud Boy's to "stand by, stand ready". Later Trump tried to back away from the comment by saying he did not know who the Proud Boy's were. But in the end, the answer is Trump was calling them to stand by, stand ready for his call for them to "Go to the Capital and fight like hell". This is proof that Trump was a traitor to our nation.....at least by YOUR standard applied to Trump it is.

Again, this is the issue that we get when Christians become disciples of any political leader or party. They become dishonest or they become sheeple...blindly following and repeating their "shepherds".

No its not, yes it is.... I can do this all day. Quite frankly you seem to like to bask conservatives lately. You can throw around the dishonesty accusation like candy to children if you want. Im getting messages about your attitude. I suggest you dial it in.
 

Wingman68

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I wish someone would tell me just what the Proud Boys have done to warrant them being labeled as ‘terrorists’. I’m tired of reading posts that automatically demonize them, which means driving a narrative can become a truth after a small period of time.

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Revmitchell

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I wish someone would tell me just what the Proud Boys have done to warrant them being labeled as ‘terrorists’. I’m tired
of reading posts that automatically demonize them, which means driving a narrative can become a truth after a small period of time.

I have no idea
 

JonC

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Guess my perception of politics in America is much different. No other president in my lifetime has ever been as poorly treated as Trump. There is just no comparison. None. Trump is not like a standard Republican, and certainly not like a standard politician. That’s why so many voters have appreciated him and why the swamp has so hated him.

The MSM have always leaned heavily Dem, but now they and those they serve are on a rampage. Trump is just an excuse—there is no doubt that their agenda is totalitarian. Biden was even defending the Chinese Communist dictator in that townhall. The Dems are hypocrites in the extreme and hate American ideals. And too many RINOs are helping them destroy America.
I agree with your perception of politics in America. The idiots were trying to impeach Trump before he ever got into office.

And the DNC is hypocritical. They are evil. The media leans left.

I agree with all of that.

Where we seem to disagree is whether or not the Right should treat Biden as the Left treated Trump. As a Christian, I have specific opinions about how we are to treat one another. But I do understand why Republicans, even Christian Republicans, would be very tempted to act differently.
 

Yeshua1

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I agree with your perception of politics in America. The idiots were trying to impeach Trump before he ever got into office.

And the DNC is hypocritical. They are evil. The media leans left.

I agree with all of that.

Where we seem to disagree is whether or not the Right should treat Biden as the Left treated Trump. As a Christian, I have specific opinions about how we are to treat one another. But I do understand why Republicans, even Christian Republicans, would be very tempted to act differently.
Our friends over on the left want us to be civil and cordial to Biden, which is OK< while at same time always treated Trump as being the Antichrist!
 

JonC

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No its not, yes it is.... I can do this all day. Quite frankly you seem to like to bask conservatives lately. You can throw around the dishonesty accusation like candy to children if you want. Im getting messages about your attitude. I suggest you dial it in.
This is not correct, but I do understand why you may think otherwise given the current political situation.

I am not sure what you mean by "bask conservatives" but if you mean "bask in conservativism" then I would agree. I am a conservative (probably more than most here as I am conservativein terms of morals and character as well).

I do understand getting messages about people's attitudes. That is, apparently, something you and I have in common. I have received enough messages about you, and probably most involved in the political section, to comprise a book the size of a N.T. Wright explanation of Justification. I get them because I am a moderator. I don't know why you get them, but you are welcome to them as far as I am concerned. I am glad others take notice of my views as this is exactly why I post.

I am not throwing around the dishonesty accusation at all. I am plainly stating that it is no less dishonest to lie about Biden as it was to lie about Trump.

If it was a lie to present only a part of what Trump said, to ignore his afterthoughts or clarifications, then it is just as much a lie to do it to Biden.

Attitude has absolutely nothing to do with it (I'm not even sure how "attitude" would fit in). I am not going to go along with the crowd because they are "my team". But that has nothing to do with attitude.
 

JonC

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Our friends over on the left want us to be civil and cordial to Biden, which is OK< while at same time always treated Trump as being the Antichrist!
I agree. They will tell us "now is the time for unity"....but in two years if they do not keep the house and senate their tone will change.

My point is we cannot repay evil with evil. That is what people are doing, and as Christians we should not pretend otherwise.

I do not like Biden at all, and I believe the DNC platform to be extracted from the sins Paul spoke of in Romans. Their platform is evil, pure and simple.

But that said, it is wrong to complain about how Trump was treated and turn around and treat Biden the same way. I understand the temptation, but it is no less wrong.
 

JonC

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I wish someone would tell me just what the Proud Boys have done to warrant them being labeled as ‘terrorists’. I’m tired of reading posts that automatically demonize them, which means driving a narrative can become a truth after a small period of time.

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Now days any view that is against the "mainstream" left is labeled a terrorist group. Personally, I believe that people should be able to speak what they believe even if unpopular (even racist groups like the KKK and BLM). There is no reason to make a group be silent, and I personally like to know where people stand.

I guess the reason that the Proud Boys have been labeled a terrorist group, however, has more to do with them raising money for riot gear than it does with the beliefs they hold. But that's just a guess.
 

Yeshua1

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I agree. They will tell us "now is the time for unity"....but in two years if they do not keep the house and senate their tone will change.

My point is we cannot repay evil with evil. That is what people are doing, and as Christians we should not pretend otherwise.

I do not like Biden at all, and I believe the DNC platform to be extracted from the sins Paul spoke of in Romans. Their platform is evil, pure and simple.

But that said, it is wrong to complain about how Trump was treated and turn around and treat Biden the same way. I understand the temptation, but it is no less wrong.
I suggest that while we prau for Biden as our President, do NOT pray as many even Christians did about trump, as many prayed to have hurt him or take him out!
 

JonC

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I suggest that while we prau for Biden as our President, do NOT pray as many even Christians did about trump, as many prayed to have hurt him or take him out!
I agree. We have to make sure we do not forfeit our character and our witness in order to treat Biden the way the Democrats treated Trump.

But it seems people (even Christians) are going there because that is the direction politics is taking them. And it is sad. It is nothing to become angry over, but it is something over which Christians mourn.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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I agree with your perception of politics in America. The idiots were trying to impeach Trump before he ever got into office.

And the DNC is hypocritical. They are evil. The media leans left.

I agree with all of that.

Where we seem to disagree is whether or not the Right should treat Biden as the Left treated Trump. As a Christian, I have specific opinions about how we are to treat one another. But I do understand why Republicans, even Christian Republicans, would be very tempted to act differently.
OK, then we're pretty close. I don't mean to say that the right should mistreat Biden, but it is not out of order to expose their hypocrisy by giving them a taste of their own medicine.

Victor Hansen was quoted recently saying the Dem Progressive Left only understands reciprocity. They must be seriously threatened with extreme measures akin to their own.

If they won't listen to reason even then, then they will have to suffer those measures until they straighten up. Otherwise they will continue on like spoiled brats and out-of-control bullies.
 

Wingman68

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I guess the reason that the Proud Boys have been labeled a terrorist group, however, has more to do with them raising money for riot gear than it does with the beliefs they hold. But that's just a guess.

Boy Scout motto, ‘Be Prepared’. I would think that since they have been murdered, & attacked, they might just want some protective gear, aka riot gear. But that’s just a guess.
 

Yeshua1

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OK, then we're pretty close. I don't mean to say that the right should mistreat Biden, but it is not out of order to expose their hypocrisy by giving them a taste of their own medicine.

Victor Hansen was quoted recently saying the Dem Progressive Left only understands reciprocity. They must be seriously threatened with extreme measures akin to their own.

If they won't listen to reason even then, then they will have to suffer those measures until they straighten up. Otherwise they will continue on like spoiled brats and out-of-control bullies.
Even our Lord Jesus Himself thundered down and spoke out against those in positions of authority abusing their leadership !
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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I wish someone would tell me just what the Proud Boys have done to warrant them being labeled as ‘terrorists’. I’m tired of reading posts that automatically demonize them, which means driving a narrative can become a truth after a small period of time.

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Good question. And who can you trust to answer it honestly? The ones who approve or excuse BLM and Antifa? Not on your life.

It is indeed hard to stand up to unrighteous authority, especially alone. But these Dem MSM charlatans are self-appointed, which makes it all the worse if we don't stand up to their lies and deception. The first step in the right direction is to be extremely skeptical of anything they say.
 
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