Abuse of authority? Depraved conduct? Come on, the laws that they could pick from are endless. And if anything the local authorities come up with does not stick, there are the Federal Civil Rights laws that can come into play.
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Black man killed by police in Minneapolis
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Abuse of authority? Depraved conduct? Come on, the laws that they could pick from are endless. And if anything the local authorities come up with does not stick, there are the Federal Civil Rights laws that can come into play.
Please don't make me defend Amy Klobuchar. But if you insist on quoting the GatewayPundit I guess someone has to correct Fake News. Might as well be me.
In 2006, Chauvin was one of six officers from the Third Precinct who responded to a stabbing at a Minneapolis home. Police said Wayne Reyes stabbed his friend and his girlfriend and then threatened to kill all of them with a shotgun.
Police pursued Reyes, who fled in his truck. He got out of the vehicle with a shotgun, and "several officers fired multiple shots," killing Reyes, police said in a report. It was unclear during the initial investigation which officers fired their weapons and whether Reyes had made any verbal or physical threats.
Minneapolis police officer at center of George Floyd's death had history of complaints
In 2006, Chauvin was one of several officers involved in the shooting death of a man who stabbed others before turning on the police.
Although Klobuchar was the Hennepin county attorney at the time of an October 2006 police shooting involving Chauvin, she did not prosecute and instead the case went to a grand jury that declined to charge the officers with wrongdoing in 2008.
George Floyd killing: two officers involved previously reviewed for use of force
Notice that Chauvin "was one of six cops involved" in the shooting death of a man who had stabbed two people and then turned a shotgun on police. Can you understand why Klobuchar didn't prosecute him? A grand jury subsequently failed to indict Chauvin which is amazing because the bar for grand juries indicting people is pretty low.
I fully agree he needs to be charged with something, like excessive force as Revmitchell suggested. I presume they are waiting on the autopsy to really nail him on a whole range of charges.
Justice is a process. Its is slow and deliberate. People should have enough maturity to let the process run its course.
I do it just for you, ITL!
They're the best internet news site on the web today. I prefer them even over Breitbart. God bless TGP!
Most people will let the system run it's course, the mob never.
I disagree with a number of you, but I won't do quotes because I don't want this to be personal.
For starters, I know that the problem in Minneapolis, as it is in many places in the U.S., is systematic. That means that the system governing police officers is causing situations where police officers are killing innocent citizens.
Take this particular case. One might argue that there is a single bad apple or two, but four? And they all happened to be at the same place at the same time? That would be some awfully bad luck.
What is more likely is that not only had the officers been taught that what they did is ok, but it is also likely that they were trained to do it. Such callous behavior has to be taught.
Police officers are taught an us vs. them mentality. They are literally taught to call us civilians as if they were an occupying military force. Think about it - we aren't citizens, we are civilians. This is why the police officers did not listen to their fellow citizens because the police officers do not consider them as such. If one really wants this to stop, the whole mindset of training a police officer has to change.
I believe the man's death was tragic and possibly avoidable. However, I don't believe that the officers were evil. I just don't see the possibility of 4 evil police officers in the same place at the same time. And remember, they knew that they were being recorded. They thought that they were doing the right thing. That automatically means that Federal charges don't apply.
For state charges, one has involuntary manslaughter, at best. The police were the ones who called the ambulance. My thought is that Mr. Floyd was suffering from a combination of bad health and bad drugs. I believe his resisting of officers was instinctive due to his poor health condition. I think the nose bleed was cause by brain trauma caused by wither the neck hold or his health condition. I do not believe that the police thought that the man would die or that they were causing his death. And at the moment, we don't know if they caused his death.
For starters, I know that the problem in Minneapolis, as it is in many places in the U.S., is systematic. That means that the system governing police officers is causing situations where police officers are killing innocent citizens.
Take this particular case. One might argue that there is a single bad apple or two, but four? And they all happened to be at the same place at the same time? That would be some awfully bad luck.
What is more likely is that not only had the officers been taught that what they did is ok, but it is also likely that they were trained to do it. Such callous behavior has to be taught.
Police officers are taught an us vs. them mentality. They are literally taught to call us civilians as if they were an occupying military force. Think about it - we aren't citizens, we are civilians. This is why the police officers did not listen to their fellow citizens because the police officers do not consider them as such. If one really wants this to stop, the whole mindset of training a police officer has to change.
I believe the man's death was tragic and possibly avoidable. However, I don't believe that the officers were evil. I just don't see the possibility of 4 evil police officers in the same place at the same time. And remember, they knew that they were being recorded. They thought that they were doing the right thing. That automatically means that Federal charges don't apply.
For state charges, one has involuntary manslaughter, at best. The police were the ones who called the ambulance. My thought is that Mr. Floyd was suffering from a combination of bad health and bad drugs. I believe his resisting of officers was instinctive due to his poor health condition. I think the nose bleed was cause by brain trauma caused by wither the neck hold or his health condition. I do not believe that the police thought that the man would die or that they were causing his death. And at the moment, we don't know if they caused his death.
Marxism + Islam = Chaos. Those two will ride together until they are in control and then Islam will cut the head off Marxism.
Ever heard of the term impunity?
There are no circumstances under which that position is allowed in the law enforcement so how could they possibly think they were right? It is expressly banned.
The white officers killed the black man in full glare of cameras because they thought they could get away with it.
The move used to restrain George Floyd isn't encouraged by most police. Here's why
“The knee-to-neck move is banned by several major metropolitan police departments, but Minneapolis police allow police to restrain suspects' necks if they're aggressive or resisting arrest. Floyd was unarmed and handcuffed when he was pinned to the ground.”
Race-baiting is racist. Please stop doing it.
Every time a white person gets killed by a cop, it never makes the news. The national media is always ready to broadcast the death of a black-skinned person by police.
Why is there no reasoning or sense to your comments?
The mob should be arrested and prosecuted.
It's racist denying racism in this police brutality. When last did you hear of white cops unleashing this on their fellow whites or black cops on whites?
This thing is one-way
His not being given the chance to breath would fall under federal Civil rights being violated!
No it is not, as what about the Thugs who use this as excuse to burn and loot?
This is due to sin natures period!
Post # 111 "Every time a white person gets killed by a cop, it never makes the news. The national media is always ready to broadcast the death of a black-skinned person by police."
If it fits the liberal agenda, it leads; if not - DOA!! Not just racism, it's ANYTHING.
Actually the DA said there was other evidence that has thus far kept him from charging the officer
As they should.
They should not have even terminated the officers, yet. That is in violation of their own policies and procedures. If they take the city to court, all or most of them will be reinstated with full back pay.
I have to admit that this can get complicated because it looks into motives.
Here is an example about motives:
A few years ago I was pulled over driving from Memphis TN on I-40. I was escorted from my vehicle, handcuffed and sat by the side of the road while the police searched my car.. After all of this I was released with the explanation that a vehicle matching mine was seen with a driver waiving a gun on the interstate. I was driving a gray Ford Taurus, no distinctive markings or stickers. If I were not white then it would automatically be assumed that this was racism. As I am white it was just a case of mistaken identity.
When I worked on a medical ward I became familiar with a man who was abusive anytime a psychiatric patient had to be restrained. This was not a racist issue but one of power over another person.
That does not mean that racism is not a problem or does not exist. It just means that sometimes things may be chalked up to racism when that may not necessarily be factual. I would be interested to know if the police officers treated suspects differently according to their race.
But in the end it does not matter. It could be an issue of race, or it could be an issue of power. Or it could be both. But in the end it is evil. When an officer has a suspect under control (when an officer takes control away from a suspect) then that officer is responsible for the well-being for that suspect. I cannot see how the incident can be anything but murder.
In the late 1960s a career policeman (Joe Wambaugh) wrote "The New Centurians", in which the us/them attitude was a prominent thread running through the entire book. I found it to be eye-opening, though since I've not seen a strong display of that sense by small-town LEO with which I've interacted, and have had no real interactions with big-city police.
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