Black man killed by police in Minneapolis

[Scarlett O.]

Black officer shot white woman, not looting, arson, rioting, or mayhem.
White officer kills black man, exact opposite, with opposite results in the community.
Telling. There is a big difference in culture between white people and inner city black people.
I have worked with many black people and most are fine good people individually, but they all of them have had this underlying sense of injustice inside of them where they feel like society owes them back. Monetary reparations was big on the list.

That's your take away from this?

God help us. GOD HELP US!

 

[Calminian]

Agreed that the cause of death needs to be determined by the medical examiner. I suspect the authorities are waiting to get that information before proceeding with charges against the kneeling officer.

To me, it's kind of irrelevant. Yes, determine the exact cause, but the fact is, you have a knee on a cuffed guy's neck for 6+ minutes, who is crying for help. This one, for me, is over. Just a matter now of the severity of the punishment.

I'm also angry this guy will be used to tarnish the entire force.

 

[Sai]

My son decided to change a paper for high school from transgender athletes to this cop v black issue. He brought up a great observation, that many people are stigmatizing all police officers as many people stigmatize all black people.


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[InTheLight]

To me, it's kind of irrelevant. Yes, determine the exact cause, but the fact is, you have a knee on a cuffed guy's neck for 6+ minutes, who is crying for help. This one, for me, is over. Just a matter now of the severity of the punishment.

I'm also angry this guy will be used to tarnish the entire force.

Without an autopsy, with what crime are you going to charge the officer?

 

[Calminian]

Without an autopsy, with what crime are you going to charge the officer?

I never made the claim I wanted a sentence without an autopsy. Clearly a crime was committed, but the autopsy will determine how severely he can be punished.

 

[Sai]

I've lived here my entire life and I've NEVER heard Minnesota referred to as California East. Never.

Where do you get this stuff?

Yea California is pretty hard to match. But Hawaii seems to be worse.


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[InTheLight]

I never made the claim I wanted a sentence without an autopsy.

And I never said you claimed he should be sentenced without an autopsy. I'm suggesting the autopsy is needed to see if he will be charged with murder.

Clearly a crime was committed, but the autopsy will determine how severely he can be punished.

Should we, maybe, have a trial first?

 

[Calminian]

Should we, maybe, have a trial first?

Indeed. Never said otherwise.

 

[Sai]

Mayor says George Floyd was 'killed because he is black'
"The mayor then went on to say "he'd be alive today if he were white.""

Which race is most likely to obey commands from arresting officers?

Could that difference have any influence on the outcome of the encounter?

There’s a fear of black people. I would say even more fear of Polynesians when there’s a chance of an arrest going wrong. This fear is NORMAL. Whites are predictable and naturally in an arrest like this there would be less fear Brother Briggman. There are parts of Honolulu where police would show up to arrest a Samoan chief to be met with a hundred Troy Polamalus blocking them. They would turn around and leave knowing that physical confrontation would be unavoidable. I realize that this is a political statement by the leadership there but even so, what I’m saying is true.


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[InTheLight]

Indeed. Never said otherwise.

You said, "Clearly a crime was committed."

In our society, we have trials to determine if a crime has been committed. Sure looked like this cop was doing something illegal, but here we are three days later and he hasn't been charged. So far as I know, he's not been arrested, is not in custody.

 

[Calminian]

You said, "Clearly a crime was committed."

Yes, clearly there was. You'd have to be a moron to think otherwise. But I also said, "To me..." Then I said, "for me, it's over..."

I never said, I'm the final authority and to forego the legal process. You're so defensive.

 

[HankD]

if the man was resisting arrest as we see so often on the COPS type shows and subsequently dies from heart failure then no crime is committed by the police.

but that no longer matters as the public has already tried and convicted the officers involved.

 

[Reynolds]

Next time a white person dies in police custody, we should all riot, burn, burglarize, and pillage. I am past tired of these idiots.

 

[Calminian]

if the man was resisting arrest as we see so often on the COPS type shows and subsequently dies from heart failure then no crime is committed by the police.

but that no longer matters as the public has already tried and convicted the officers involved.

Normally I don't, and I agree that's what's done, and it's a shame. The hands up don't shoot was bogus. Terrible injustice against that officer.

I'm just at a loss looking at this video. To me, prior resistance is irrelevant. The guy is already cuffed and face down crying for help. I'm not the law, and we have to wait for justice. But in my opinion, there's no way around this. I say guilty.

And I don't always side with verdicts. I believe OJ is also guilty.

Next time a white person dies in police custody, we should all riot, burn, burglarize, and pillage. I am past tired of these idiots.

I have the same the frustration. The looters and race-baiters are just as evil as any corrupt cop. I'm just as disgusted with them.

 

[canadyjd]

Mayor says George Floyd was 'killed because he is black'
"The mayor then went on to say "he'd be alive today if he were white.""

Which race is most likely to obey commands from arresting officers?

Could that difference have any influence on the outcome of the encounter?

I didn’t hear the officer giving him any commands. Even if he had resisted, once he is in custody, handcuffed, the officers are responsible for his well being. The LEO doesn’t get to punish/torture someone because they resisted.

Which race would the officer most likely respond to as he begged for their life with a shin across the neck. He didn’t respond to this man or the pleas/begging of bystanders that he was killing him.

peace to you

 

[Calminian]

I didn’t hear the officer giving him any commands. Even if he had resisted, once he is in custody, handcuffed, the officers are responsible for his well being. The LEO doesn’t get to punish/torture someone because they resisted.

Which race would the officer most likely respond to as he begged for their life with a shin across the neck. He didn’t respond to this man or the pleas/begging of bystanders that he was killing him.

peace to you

Yeah, he completely ignored the pleads from the victim and bystanders. Disgusting. Needs to go away for a long time.

 

[Revmitchell]

Without an autopsy, with what crime are you going to charge the officer?

Excessive force for starters

 

[Calminian]

Interesting.


In 2006 Amy Klobuchar Failed to Charge Police Officer Derek Chauvin After Shooting Death of Native American – On Monday that Same Officer Killed George Floyd

 

[HankD]

Normally I don't, and I agree that's what's done, and it's a shame. The hands up don't shoot was bogus. Terrible injustice against that officer.

I'm just at a loss looking at this video. To me, prior resistance is irrelevant. The guy is already cuffed and face down crying for help. I'm not the law, and we have to wait for justice. But in my opinion, there's no way around this. I say guilty.

And I don't always side with verdicts. I believe OJ is also guilty.



I have the same the frustration. The looters and race-baiters are just as evil as any corrupt cop. I'm just as disgusted with them.

it doesn't look as if the police were concerned for the "perp" on the ground, cuffed, ALIVE but dying and pleading for mercy.

we shall see what comes of it, IMO this time as Obama's pastor Wright said "the chickens have come home to roost" for Minneapolis.

 

[777]

MSP are unionized governmental employees - these people pay their salaries and pensions not to become victims of police brutality. The Hmong one had another suspect in custody, handcuffed, and broke his teeth and got off with a slap on the wrist. Reform.

Agreed that the cause of death needs to be determined by the medical examiner. I suspect the authorities are waiting to get that information before proceeding with charges against the kneeling officer.

they've done a preliminary autopsy, prosecutor doesn't think it warranted any charges:

Prosecutors warn there is 'evidence that does not support criminal charge' in George Floyd's killing | Daily Mail Online

have no idea why they are saying that, unless there was some other factor involved that led to George's death - drugs, weak heart? Still, you think it would be manslaughter or something.

They fired all four cops in hopes of staving off a riot, didn't work.