It is a liberal Democrat city in a state that is sometimes called California East. Some of the rioters were not maintaining social distancing and seemed to lack N95 masks.
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Black man killed by police in Minneapolis
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It is a liberal Democrat city in a state that is sometimes called California East. Some of the rioters were not maintaining social distancing and seemed to lack N95 masks.
As someone who has been trained in "use of force" and "deadly use of force" (they are not the same) It is unclear why these so called officers have not yet been arrested.
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Anyone who deals with the arrest of the criminal elements in our society has heard those same pleas from men who are going to try to kill you just as soon as you relax. I can understand why the pleas were ignored.
That being said, I'm sure policy was violated many times by police during this arrest. The knee on the neck was just one. After hand restraints are applied the suspect should have been rolled to his side or sat up. Not sure what the delay was, but I haven't seen a video that shows what the other 2 officers are doing, nor what the suspect is doing with his legs and feet.
Still no cause of death ruling, as far as I know. Nothing should be decided without it.
I've lived here my entire life and I've NEVER heard Minnesota referred to as California East. Never.
Where do you get this stuff?
alexander284
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Having resided in California for much of my life, I've often heard the neighboring state of Nevada referred to as "California East."
This is due to the fact that so many residents of California have relocated to Nevada (which is just east of California).
And, of course, they bring their liberal politics with them, once they've transitioned from the "Golden State" to the "Silver State."
Why would there be any need to have a knee on his neck, if already handcuffed? And why would those others cops just blindly follow his lead?
I hear the complaint about Californians who fled the state bringing their politics to other states quite often. It's not just Nevada, it's Idaho, Arizona, Texas, Colorado, etc.
Minneapolis has often been called the "Minne-Apple", a reference to being a mini New York (Big Apple) with regards to its vibrant arts, theater, and dining scene. But "California East""? Never.
I doubt that a knee on the neck is part of the use of force protocol. It should have been on the shoulder and removed after the suspect was compliant.Lot's of mistakes were made. That doesn't necessarily mean it was murder...or even manslaughter.
Waiting for the CoD.
Exactly how would a cuffed and face down man attempt to kill an officer?
What will investigators look for in the death of George Floyd?
Whatever the outcome, the process must be evidence-based, deliberate and meet the highest standards of any homicide investigation
Unlike most of the social media world along with the Minneapolis police chief and mayor, as well as a few police experts getting network face time and possible book sales, I’m not ready to make assumptions about what killed George Floyd.
The officers may be determined to be grossly at fault and, indeed, discredited and rightly labeled murderer and accessories. An in-depth analysis of all the data may show that they were legally justified in every decision they made. There may be a lot of truth along the continuum between the two conclusions. At the end of all of it, I’ll be able to say I was right not to make a judgment based on 36 hours of news reports.
Whatever the outcome, the process must be evidence-based, deliberate and meet the highest standards of any homicide investigation
Unlike most of the social media world along with the Minneapolis police chief and mayor, as well as a few police experts getting network face time and possible book sales, I’m not ready to make assumptions about what killed George Floyd.
The officers may be determined to be grossly at fault and, indeed, discredited and rightly labeled murderer and accessories. An in-depth analysis of all the data may show that they were legally justified in every decision they made. There may be a lot of truth along the continuum between the two conclusions. At the end of all of it, I’ll be able to say I was right not to make a judgment based on 36 hours of news reports.
Your problem as is ours is the alignment of "the facts" with the truth.
I read the dark, dark web, where liberals are outed.
Agreed that the cause of death needs to be determined by the medical examiner. I suspect the authorities are waiting to get that information before proceeding with charges against the kneeling officer.
Mayor says George Floyd was 'killed because he is black'
"The mayor then went on to say "he'd be alive today if he were white.""
Which race is most likely to obey commands from arresting officers?
Could that difference have any influence on the outcome of the encounter?
"The mayor then went on to say "he'd be alive today if he were white.""
Which race is most likely to obey commands from arresting officers?
Could that difference have any influence on the outcome of the encounter?
"Justice will be served": Trump orders "expedited" federal investigation into death of George Floyd
Trump intervenes. Obama would have fanned the flames.
Trump intervenes. Obama would have fanned the flames.
I'm failing to see what the federal government has to do with this incident.
Can you enlighten us as to why the Feds should be involved in a local issue?
Scott Downey
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MINNEAPOLIS BURNS: Riots Over George Floyd Death Lead To Arson, Destruction Of Property, Looting
After effects are rioting, looting, arson, general mayhem, property destruction and NO COPS AROUND at all to restrain this. I suppose if cops showed up, there would be many people shot and killed. Dont let a crisis go to waste is that the motto?
Underneath the surface demeanor is a seething hatred in these folk, With a get even mindset for perceived slights and injustices.
And I wonder how much of those businesses will be rebuilt in these places as the memory of what the community did will have a dampening effect on that desire.
After effects are rioting, looting, arson, general mayhem, property destruction and NO COPS AROUND at all to restrain this. I suppose if cops showed up, there would be many people shot and killed. Dont let a crisis go to waste is that the motto?
Underneath the surface demeanor is a seething hatred in these folk, With a get even mindset for perceived slights and injustices.
And I wonder how much of those businesses will be rebuilt in these places as the memory of what the community did will have a dampening effect on that desire.
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Scott Downey
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Black officer shot white woman, not looting, arson, rioting, or mayhem.
White officer kills black man, exact opposite, with opposite results in the community.
Telling. There is a big difference in culture between white people and inner city black people.
I have worked with many black people and most are fine good people individually, but they all of them have had this underlying sense of injustice inside of them where they feel like society owes them back. Monetary reparations was big on the list.
His use of force was excessive from the start. There was no need to hold him on the ground. One or more of the other lazy officers should have immediately helped him get the suspect off the ground and into the car.
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