Bush Warns Against Those Who Would Negotiate With Terrorists

[dragonfly]

I agree, there should be no negotions with terrorists, they become more valid when you do.

It sure is good that President Reagan disagreed with you!

 

[dragonfly]

The sanctions are not what hurts the people it is the behavior of the rulers

ds
Yea right! Sanctions have worked so well in Cuba.

 

[dragonfly]

Which Democrat did he mention.

Please, don't play stupid. You know who Bush was talking about.

 

[Revmitchell]

Please, don't play stupid. You know who Bush was talking about.

Who did he mention?

 

[KenH]

Which Democrat did he mention.

Don't play dumb, Pastor Mitchell. Everyone knows to whom he was referring.

 

[Revmitchell]

Don't play dumb, Pastor Mitchell. Everyone knows to whom he was referring.

What Democrat did he mention?

 

[poncho]

Let's not forget the Bush family fortune was built in part by financing the Nazi regime. And then there's this...

McInerney (Ret. Gen. Thomas McInerney one of the pentagon's "message force multipliers" or made for prime time propagandists pentagon group ) urges U.S. government to support terrorist organization MEK, Bush administration already bankrolling Al-Qaeda-linked Jundullah group

McInerney: Here’s what I would suggest to you. Number one, we take the National Council for Resistance to Iran off the terrorist list that the Clinton Administration put them on as well as the Mujahedin-e Khalq at the Camp Ashraf in Iraq. Then I would start a tit-for-tat strategy which I wrote up in the Wall Street Journal a year ago: For every EFP that goes off and kills Americans, two go off in Iran. No questions asked. People don’t have to know how it was done. It’s a covert action. They become the most unlucky country in the world. …

Watch the video...


And this...

The most extraordinary exchange takes place when Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong bemoans shrinking political support for Neo-Con war plans on Capitol Hill and suggests that sympathy for the Bush administration's agenda will only be achieved after a new terror attack.
Rumsfeld agrees that the psychological impact of 9/11 is wearing off and the "behavior pattern" of citizens in both the U.S. and Europe suggests that they are unconcerned about the threat of terror.​

DELONG: Politically, what are the challenges because you're not going to have a lot of sympathetic ears up there until it [a terror attack] happens.​

RUMSFELD: That's what I was just going to say. This President's pretty much a victim of success. We haven't had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment. The same thing's in Europe, there's a low threat perception. The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack. And when that happens, then everyone gets energized for another [inaudible] and it's a shame we don't have the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the threats...the lethality, the carnage, that can be imposed on our society is so real and so present and so serious that you'd think we'd be able to understand it, but as a society, the longer you get away from 9/11, the less...the less...
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Click here for the audio clip.

Strange how he (Bush) warms of negotiating with terrorists. Hmmm. Maybe he doesn't want them telling anyone that we're using their "special talents" on the down low.

 

[LadyEagle]

I think it is laughable that Bush says we should not negotiate with terrorists. Look at his record during his administration and we keep on buying from China even though they persecute Christians and execute political prisoners for harvesting their body organs to sell on the black market. And, yes, it was Bush and the Republican controlled Congress that granted China permanent normal trade relations with the US in January 2002.

 

[NiteShift]

ds
Yea right! Sanctions have worked so well in Cuba.

And yet the anti-war Dems advocated continued sanctions against Saddam. Because they worked so well.

 

[NiteShift]

Don't play dumb, Pastor Mitchell. Everyone knows to whom he was referring.

Who, Jimmy Carter? Nancy Pelosi? Both of whom made un-authorized foreign policy trips to the M-E. How do you know he wasn't refering to them?

 

[Pastor Larry]

Conservatives criticize liberals for going overseas and criticizing Republican foreign policy. If it is sleazy for liberals to do it, then it is just as sleazy for President Bush to do it in criticizing Democratic foreign policy. President Bush should be ashamed of himself.

Why? He has been saying this for a long time. This is not new, and it didn't start with Obama. Bush is right and you know it, and Obama knows it. But Obama is in the place of trying to win, and so he has to say things that differentiate him from Bush and McCain even though he knows he will never do it.

I will be so glad come January 20, 2009, when this extremely sorry excuse for a chief executive in this nation finally leaves office.

To quote someone else, "That's real Christian of you."

 

[NiteShift]

I think it is laughable that Bush says we should not negotiate with terrorists. Look at his record during his administration and we keep on buying from China even though they persecute Christians and execute political prisoners for harvesting their body organs to sell on the black market. And, yes, it was Bush and the Republican controlled Congress that granted China permanent normal trade relations with the US in January 2002.

"President Bill Clinton is actively pushing to get Congress to grant China permanent normal trade relations." - May 25, 2000
LINK

 

[LadyEagle]

Yes, but Congress approved it and Bush signed it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/12/27/world/main322541.shtml?source=search_story

 

[LadyEagle]

Here's yet another laughable (but sad) Bush foreign policy where he not only negotiated with terrorists but gave them weapons paid for with OUR tax dollars:

March 3, 2008
Hamas using US weapons against Israel
Fantasy-Based Policymaking does have a downside.
"'Hamas using US weapons against IDF,'" by Khaled Abu Toameh for the Jerusalem Post (thanks to Bryan):

..."At least 2,000 Hamas gunmen have been deployed in the northern Gaza Strip to take part in the fighting," the sources told The Jerusalem Post.
The sources estimated that Izaddin Kassam has at least 15,000 members divided into four brigades in the Gaza Strip.

They added that the Hamas gunmen were using many American-made arms seized from the Fatah-controlled Palestinian Authority security forces in June.

Hamas says it captured thousands of M-16 and Kalashnikov rifles, and large supplies of ammunition during its weeklong conquest of Gaza. Hamas is also believed to have acquired weapons capable of penetrating armor and stockpiles of rocket-propelled grenades....

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020170.php

The PA is just as much a terrorist group as Hamas. All because Bush wanted to push the Road Map from Hell down Israel's throat. Disgusting.

 

[NiteShift]

Yes, but Congress approved it and Bush signed it.

Well yes he did. We also trade with former enemies such as Viet Nam. But as far as we know, neither China or Viet Nam is currently firing rockets cross-border into other countries or setting roadside bombs to kill our troops. But sure, there can always an argument one way or another. No administration has ever been totally consistant or ethically pure that I know of.

 

[LadyEagle]

But as far as we know, neither China or Viet Nam is currently firing rockets cross-border into other countries or setting roadside bombs to kill our troops.

So, it's okay then, as long as Americans aren't the ones being terrorized by China? My point is, Bush is a hypocrite and has a record of not only negotiating but HELPING terrorists by some of his foreign policies. And he knew and Congress knew about China's human rights violations when they granted China Permanent Normal Trade Relations with the US, all for $$$ - greed.

Beijing Caves
By SOPHIE RICHARDSON
May 3, 2008; Page A9
The Chinese government's decision this month to recall the ship named the An Yue Jiang – loaded with weapons, bound for Zimbabwe – may bring little genuine relief to those who suffer at the hands of the Mugabe government.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120977705104464315.html

Horrific New Evidence of China Organ Harvesting Revealed
By Jan Jekielek
Epoch Times Staff on assignment in Warsaw Nov 16, 2006

SHOCKING: Former Canadian Secretary of State for Asia-Pacific David Kilgour reveals striking new evidence of organ harvesting from living Falun Gong prisoners of conscience in China, at Asia Human Rights Week in Warsaw on November 14. (Jan Jekielek/The Epoch Times)
A Chinese military surgeon had eight Chinese citizens killed to supply a single foreign patient with a new kidney, said former Canadian Secretary of State for Asia-Pacific David Kilgour on November 14. Kilgour spoke as a special guest at the Asian Human Rights Week forum in Warsaw, on day two of a five day program.

"The incredible thing is that the doctor would…go down the names on sheets of paper looking for blood types and tissue types and so on, and he [the patient] would point at names on the list. The doctor would then go away and come back with organs," said Kilgour.

Related Stories:
- Chinese Authorities Must Co-operate, Says MP Tuesday, November 07, 2006
- Reports of Sale of Executed Falun Gong Prisoners' Organs in China Called 'Shocking' Tuesday, October 03, 2006
- Congress Holds First Hearing on Organ Harvesting Monday, October 02, 2006
- Organ Harvesting Exists—There Is No Doubt Wednesday, September 27, 2006

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-11-16/48226.html

China: Tibetan Detainees at Serious Risk of Torture and Mistreatment
Allow Independent Monitors Access to Detention Facilities

(New York, March 19, 2008) – The Chinese government should immediately permit independent monitors to have access to the large number of Tibetans detained in Tibet and adjoining provinces in the aftermath of public protests, Human Rights Watch said today. The government should publish the names of all individuals detained and their places of detention.
Unconfirmed reports suggest that hundreds have been arrested. Chinese authorities have not specified the number of detainees. Human Rights Watch and others have previously documented torture and ill-treatment of detainees in Tibet, especially those accused by the Chinese authorities of “separatist” activities.

“Given the long and well-documented history of torture of political activists by China’s security forces there is every reason to fear for the safety of those recently detained,” said Brad Adams, Asia director at Human Rights Watch. “Only by giving access to independent monitors can China give the world some confidence that detainees are not being tortured or mistreated.”

http://china.hrw.org/press/news_rel...s_at_serious_risk_of_torture_and_mistreatment

 

[KenH]

Who, Jimmy Carter? Nancy Pelosi? Both of whom made un-authorized foreign policy trips to the M-E. How do you know he wasn't refering to them?

They are not running for president. They are no threat to the election chances of Senator John Sidney McCain III.

 

[carpro]

They are no threat to the election chances of Senator John Sidney McCain III.

McCain is , and always has been, his own biggest "threat" when it comes to his chances of being elected.

 

[saturneptune]

The foreign policy of President Bush is a travesty. It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. The focal point is his lack of leadership ability and ineptness. To say he is better than the usual liberal clowns of Obama, Kerry, Gore, Carter, and Clinton does not excuse his lack of doing his job. They may have done worse, but we as a country can do better than the whole lot of them.

If you are going to fight a war, you fight to win, and you go to war on honest premises.

Too bad for our nation, but the Republicans, all of them, both Congress and the President, deserve to get thrashed at the polls this November. Maybe when they get it through their thick, self serving, power hungry heads that they are elected to serve the American people, and govern by the conservative principals that they promised, maybe they will regain power.

 

[poncho]

And yet the anti-war Dems advocated continued sanctions against Saddam. Because they worked so well.

And they figured half a million dead children was worth the price. They got just as much blood on their hands as the pro war republicans.