Calvinism and Arminianism foreknowledge compared with respect to time

[Yeshua1]

They did not understand what they saw.
“For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.” Luke 10:24 (KJV 1900)

First coming Jesus Talked about there, not his second Coming!

 

[Yeshua1]

Shouldn't you ask how Jesus interprets it?

That is the way he and Apostles all used!

 

[1689Dave]

First coming Jesus Talked about there, not his second Coming!

Who are you to say?

 

[37818]

Forced literalism is sin. The letter kills, the Spirit gives life.

I suspect you do not know what you think you know here.
The letter which kills is Law versus grace where it is the Spirit who gives life.

 

[1689Dave]

That is the way he and Apostles all used!

Why do you agree with the Pharisees and disagree with Jesus on the kingdom?

 

[1689Dave]

I suspect you do not know what you think you know here.
The letter which kills is Law versus grace where it is the Spirit who gives life.

Where does it say that?

 

[Yeshua1]

Why do you agree with the Pharisees and disagree with Jesus on the kingdom?

I agree with the scriptures!

 

[1689Dave]

I agree with the scriptures!

But not Jesus?

 

[37818]

Where does it say that?

Understand what the New Covenant means where it is written, ". . . Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. . . ."

 

[Yeshua1]

But not Jesus?

Not YOUR misunderstandings of what he said!

 

[1689Dave]

Understand what the New Covenant means where it is written, ". . . Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. . . ."

So why force literal interpretations whenever possible? = Bad Hermeneutics.

 

[1689Dave]

Not YOUR misunderstandings of what he said!

You agree with the Pharisees that the kingdom did not arrive with Christ. And doubt his words saying it did.

 

[Derf B]

“When pride cometh, then cometh shame: But with the lowly is wisdom.” Proverbs 11:2 (KJV 1900)

“Before destruction the heart of man is haughty, And before honour is humility.” Proverbs 18:12 (KJV 1900)

“A man’s pride shall bring him low: But honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.” Proverbs 29:23 (KJV 1900)

“Pride goeth before destruction, And an haughty spirit before a fall.” Proverbs 16:18 (KJV 1900)

but that’s just His revealed will. His decreed will is what He really wants. Can’t you see how your theology demeans God and turns His character upside down?

 

[1689Dave]

but that’s just His revealed will. His decreed will is what He really wants. Can’t you see how your theology demeans God and turns His character upside down?

“Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: Except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.” Psalm 127:1 (KJV 1900)

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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