Can a believer sin?

That is for all people and someone committing such acts are the unsaved, the unbelievers. I don't care how much they say they are saved.

If you die with one of the listed sins above still against you, good luck before the GWT.

Or do you believe salvation is a license to sin?

 

1. Npetreley, if it weren't for the grace of God none of us would make it. Period.

2. Am I aware of every sin that I have committed? What about that adultery in my heart that My Lord spoke about (Matt. 5).

3. I didn't go under the sheets, but I lusted. Are we forgetting this aspect of adultery? Salvation is truly of the Lord, Bob, or none would be saved.

 

So there's no third option? Either we have to die with no unconfessed sins, or else salvation is a license to sin? You're beginning to sound like the ME folks.

 

So you are saying that Paul spoke a bunch of hogwash below, or would you remove the "not"?

1 Corth 6:
9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
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You got scripture for third option? I never heard of anything but repentance or lost.

 

1 Corinthians 6 is an epistle written from a Christian to a Christian church. Verses 9 and 10 are warnings to Christians to stop misbehaving, for if they continue in their unrighteousness, there will be a consequence.

"Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." - 1 Corinthians 6:8-10​

Good behaviors = Good consequences
Bad behaviors = Bad consequences

 

One question: Do you sin, Bob?

 

Yes, I sin a sin that is not unto death, as Jesus said some of us will do. I don't lust as you say you do.

 

What kind of sins do you commit?

 

Anything that is not of faith is sin. Many times it what I do not do.
Sometimes I doubt. Sometimes I speak when I should been listening. sometime I fail to visit the sick. Many sins, too many to start listing, but I do not lust, commit adultery, lie, steal, kill, worship idols, dishonor my father and mother, covet my neighbors wife etc.

 

I was going to post some 1 John as "third option" but even you admit you sin. Is it so far-fetched to you that you might actually die with some of that sin going unconfessed? What about the sin in your life you do not know about?

Now, if you can bring yourself to admit you may die with unconfessed sin, then does that mean you had a license to sin? If there are only two options, you don't have a choice with your answer. Either you die without any unconfessed sin, or else you had a license to commit any sin you like. That's the world you live in, not my world.

 

1. I thank God that you are one of the few men I know that have overcome the sin of lust.

2. The others are dead, and I really don't know if they truly overcame, except by virtue of death.

 

Maybe you are calling something that is not, lust? Did you actually look upon a women and undress her in your mind and want to have her? That is the lust the Lord was speaking of.

 

I am a 31yr old pastor who is not ashamed to say that I have struggled with what My Lord described in Matthew 5.

 

To believe is an 'act of the will'. Yes it 'is an action'.

If we are "saved by grace through faith" the 'working agent' is 'faith' (i.e. Work of Faith).

Since you 'believing' offers no evidence it isn't provable... thus it must be considered 'a claim' regardless.

 

I understand its a hard thing, so is lying and many of the others, but that is why God's Grace continues with us to keep us. When the moment is at hand, you just have to move on and ask God to help, and He will, He said "I will never leave you" so when it happens, the Lord is right there with you to give enough Grace sufficient for you to overcome. That what it means when it says, your faith shall be tried. I guess it much easier for me now, but I was a Pastor at about your age, I am now 68 and of course I don't struggle as you have to, but you can do it.

1Th 5:23 ¶ And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and [I pray God] your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

To think a woman is pretty is not lust.

I think some are ugly, is that unlust?

 

I have a Lord that never leaves me and knows everything I do. He also chastises me for everyone of those sins, so I be not condemned with the world. So I have to put all my trust in Him that He will keep His word and deliver me without spot or blemish.

1Th 5:23 ¶ And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and [I pray God] your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

Today Hank Aaron can say that "I am the greatest home run hitter ".

He broke Babe's record several years ago, but he still can say today "I am the greatest".

Apostle Paul persecuted Jesus Christ and His church and Paul in present tense said of sinners, "of whom I am chief". Paul felt no one had broke his record back when he persecuted Jesus Christ and the Church.

 

Uh, Bob, I "amened" the post by DHK, not adultery. And I "amened" that all sins are paid for, not just some sins. as you seem to put forth. And I "amened" that adultery is not stated in Scripture to be "a sin unto death", for that sin, is in fact, not specified, only that such a "sin unto death" exists. But nowhere is it named as to what it is. BTW, I have made that point now, at least four times on these pages.

I am happy for you, in that you have this advanced revelation, as to what is a "sin unto death" . Apparently, the Holy Spirit chose only you to receive it, for I do not find it written in any of HIS pages of Scripture.

One cannot "impose" any conditions on the salvation that Christ provided without any conditions. So I'll "Amen" that, as well. In fact, I'll say that twice more. "Amen and Amen!"

Salvation is without price, to us. That's what "free' means.

The price has long since been paid, for me, in and by the precious blood of the Lamb. Salvation, to and for me is Absolutely Free!

It is not that it is "Free" unless I commit any of certain sins, in which case I forfeit it, or never "really truly, geniunely believed" and thus never had it in the first place. Nor is it "free", but... For that is not free or "by grace" at all, is it? That is "conditional salvation".

I am absolutely astounded at the number of people I encounter who 'want' 'conditional' salvation, but 'free' discipleship. That has it exactly backwards.

Ed

 

I can't argue with any of this. I agree.