No, it means you can't draw conclusions that have not been clearly revealed by God based on that finite human logic, which is what you are doing by suggesting that God can't make choices when the bible clearly tells us that he does make choices. There is nothing wrong with saying that we don't know HOW he makes choices, just as we can say, we don't know what God's body "looks like" or is made "manifest." We know it is different than us, but that doesn't mean the truth revealed using anthropomorphic terms is untrue.
No. The bible clearly reveals Jesus was born of a virgin, so that is a conclusion drawn by the text, not human logic.
Any thinking person can understand that real choice requires a deficiency of information and that God cannot have a deficiency of information and be omniscient at the same time.
If you are going to make such a claim then you make omniscience MEANINGLESS.
If omniscience can include a deficiency of information WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN?
No, I want to accept the truth revealed to us by the anthropomorphic terms that the Bible employees. By your own definition the Anthropomorphic terms are there to help us understand, so what is wrong with understanding by those terms? We can say, yes it is different than man, but this is the best way we can explain it and understand it in our finite reasoning...leave it at that.
I've told you the way I want to say it. Please read it again.
Luke, what do the "nostrils" represent? Something about God we can't really grasp, right? So too, when it speaks of God choosing, it is revealing a concept about God we don't fully grasp. But, the bible (God) used these words to reveal himself and they way He works, so there can't be anything wrong with understanding and believing in him using those terms. We can admit that we don't understand how infinite beings make choices within time and space, but nevertheless that is what He has revealed.
I accept both to be true Luke. God makes choices and God is Omniscient. I'm okay not fully understanding how those two truths work together. I have faith God does and I leave it at that.
Good, then you can admit that God makes choices. Move on.
Then, Skandelon, you can admit that God has nostrils- eternal nostrils. Nostrils that have never not been.
This is LITERALLY how you interpret anthromporphic language:
The bible says God has nostrils so I BELIEVE IT!
The Bible says God forgets so I BELIEVE IT!
The Bible says God doesn't know many things, so I BELIEVE IT!
The Bible says God makes choices so I BELIEVE IT!
I may not know HOW God has nostrils but bless your heart I know he's got 'em! Cause the Bible says so!
I don't know HOW God makes real choices but bless your heart the bible says he does- so I BELIEVE IT!!
That is not the right way to interpret anthropomorphic language.
Plus, there are dozens of passages that speak of God making choices within time...for example:
This is what the Lord God says: On the day I chose Israel, I swore an oath to the descendants of Jacob's house and made Myself known to them in the land of Egypt. I swore to them, saying: I am the Lord your God. Ex 20:5
This was simple election in time. It was not a real choice wherein God did not know what he was going to do and then made up his mind on that day.
All this refers to is that God brought to pass on that day what he always throughout eternity intended.
I ate at O' Charlies Sunday. There is a menu there. But I knew what I wanted long before I sat down with the menu. I had already decided I wanted prime rib pasta. The choice had already been made. But the bringing it to pass, the ordering of it, the selecting of the dish for the waiter's info- that occurred in time there at the restaurant. The waiter went back to the kitchen and said something like, "A man just chose the prime rib pasta." But I had craved prime rib pasta for weeks. There was no actual CHOOSING on my part that day other than to express and bring to pass a decision that had long been made before that day.
There was never an actual point, especially not a DAY, when God made up his mind and decided to choose Israel.
But on that DAY he brought to pass what he always intended to do.
Did I ever define an infinite choice in this manner? As Don pointed out, I think its possible for God to fully know outcomes and pick one option over another (though I'm not pretending that we can fully understand or explain that process).
Don inadvertently pointed out that in order for a real choice to be made there must be a deficiency of information prior to the choosing.
Don literally SAID that he did not KNOW something in order for him to choose.
Don proved my point.
