skypair.
If you think He could choose to do something UNJUST like damning infants to hell, you don't know God's character.
PS 51:5 Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
It is you that doesn't know God's character. JOB 9:15 Though I were innocent, I could not answer him; I could only plead with my Judge for mercy.
JOB 9:20 Even if I were innocent, my mouth would condemn me; if I were blameless, it would pronounce me guilty.
Innocence cuts no ice with God, "
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad...".
...and you know better than to even think He will damn the innocent!
Of course. Where are these fabled innocent beings, off with the unicorns I suppose?
PS 58:3 Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward and speak lies.
You write as one who guesses badly, why don't you study scripture for a while and learn what the bible has to say? You have no warrant to declare all children saved because the scriptures declares no such thing.
And as to Rom 1:19 -- God said it Himself. They are without the excuse of not knowing Him (unless they are infants and then they are NOT condemned). Again, your theology ignores the character of God.
He says nothing of age nor does He view ignorance of God's word as a valid excuse for us. Again your theology ignores the word of God and you preach things not spoken of in the bible.
Are you presuming then that God doesn't have foreknowledge?
You're the one presuming. God chose to hate Esau before he had done anything and this proves God commits whoever He wants to Hell just because. Do you say Paul did not think He has foreknowledge? (That is if you want to use the word in this way.) It says it quite clearly for those who have eyes to see, "
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad...", doesn't it? Explain your question to me.
They don't know His LAWS -- but Rom 1 tells us that is NOT a prerequisite, not an EXCUSE.
This is what I mean about you not knowing the bible isn't it? Not a prerequisite for what, salvation? Not an excuse for what? Suppression of the knowledge of God is universal with us and normal and God calls His sheep through the preaching of the word, He doesn't call anyone any other way. Fact: RO 2:12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law...
PS 51:5 Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me... That is an interpretation of scripture, not a recitation of it. Basically, David was saying "I was born in the flesh and of flesh I came.
I can't see much of an interpretation from me can you? Just read the scripture.
PS 139:13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb.
PS 51:5 Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
RO 5:18 Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men...
God creates all men bad.
What happens to kids then, does God foreknow they would have had faith if He had let them live a bit longer?
Oh really. Speak lies when they can't even speak? Gimme a break, john. Again, this speaks of the "way of all flesh."
As you say, "It's the way of all flesh from the womb."
I think you understand the concept here -- "in Adam all die [physically]." That doesn't mean that they die spiritually.
The Devil's lie. All men are conceived spiritually dead and are condemned in Adam. Condemnation is the judgement on all and only in Christ is it removed. The scripture tells you that Adam and Eve died the moment they touched the tree.
Gen 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
for when you eat of it you will surely die."
Christ is our spiritual head and according as His innocence, innocence is not condemned to spiritual death, is it.
I've no idea what you are saying.
john.
NE comes into this world innocent. What does Is.49:20-23 have to do with this? So you're saying that in the Messiah's post trib kingdom those infants that die today will have opportunity then to both sin and repent?