Canada passes another liberty limiting law.

[Gold Dragon]

Not in that particular passage-- Matthew 27:33 his condemnation was for their claiming they would never have killed the prophets as their fathers did. Regardless...So? Did he intend to incite hatred is what this part of this thread is about.

As Christians I would hope we try to follow Christ's example. His strongest language and most violent act (at the temple) were towards the religious elite who were quick to condemn other's sin and quick to keep people from repentance and worship of God. Christ had a different approach to sinners.

With regard to hate speech, I recommend the link above descibing the definition in Canada. What Jesus said would not be classified as hate speech.

 

[Alcott]

As Christians I would hope we try to follow Christ's example.

Okay, who are you going to call "generation of vipers?"

His strongest language and most violent act (at the temple) were towards the religious elite who were quick to condemn other's sin and quick to keep people from repentance and worship of God.

The temple moneychangers were hardly the "religious elite." But getting back to the thread (after all, we're the ones stitching), who puts themselves in the position of Jesus? The Canadian Parliament? The shooters of Republicans? The window smashers and limo arsonists? The Boy? After all, their "most violent act" [your term] was an anti-Trump or anti-scripturalist acts.

Christ had a different approach to sinners.

Yeah, he called them "brood of vipers."

With regard to hate speech, I recommend the link above descibing the definition in Canada. What Jesus said would not be classified as hate speech.

So you can call those stupid freaks "brood of vipers?" Okay.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Okay, who are you going to call "generation of vipers?"

Modern day Pharisees, Christians who are so concerned with the sin of others that they fail to see that the grace God has given them is also available to people different from them.

The temple moneychangers were hardly the "religious elite."

It was the priesthood that allowed the moneychangers into the temple so that they could get a cut of the profits. Prior to that it happened outside the temple where the priesthood could not get their cut.

But getting back to the thread (after all, we're the ones stitching), who puts themselves in the position of Jesus?

We should be in the position of Jesus as his representatives. Speaking out against those religious elites whose focus is to condemn the sin of others while opening our arms to sinners who want to repent and turn to God.

Yeah, he called them "brood of vipers."

15And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him. 16And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners? 17When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

So you can call those stupid freaks "brood of vipers?" Okay.

Now why would I do that? Just because it is legal does not make it true, wise or Christlike.

 

[Alcott]

Modern day Pharisees, Christians who are so concerned with the sin of others that they fail to see that the grace God has given them is also available to people different from them.

Are you THAT concerned with the 'sin' of those who call an abomination an abomination?

It was the priesthood that allowed the moneychangers into the temple so that they could get a cut of the profits. Prior to that it happened outside the temple where the priesthood could not get their cut.

So what cut are you getting? Or are the reps getting?

We should be in the position of Jesus as his representatives. Speaking out against those religious elites whose focus is to condemn the sin of others while opening our arms to sinners who want to repent and turn to God.

And who involved in this wants to repent and turn to God? And who is doing any condemning? the anti-trump forces? the anti-abomination forces?...

Now why would I do that? Just because it is legal does not make it true, wise or Christlike.

Explain how it is not Christ-like if Christ did it.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Explain how it is not Christ-like if Christ did it.

Christ called the pharisees brood of vipers. He had dinner, wine and conversation with sinners.

 

[Alcott]

Christ called the pharisees brood of vipers. He had dinner, wine and conversation with sinners.

And which would you choose? Dinner and drinks at a brothel, or killing the ones who hold the law?

 

[Gold Dragon]

And which would you choose? Dinner and drinks at a brothel, or killing the ones who hold the law?

A strange question that I see no relevance to our discussion, but a pretty obvious answer.

I choose to follow the example of Christ. This is what he said to the pharisees

Matthew 21:31b-32

Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. 32For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

A few years ago, I worked in the emergency department and psych wards at St. Vincent's Hospital in King's Cross sydney which is an area well known for its history of prostitution, drugs, alcohol, homelessness, mental health issues, clubbing scene and LGBTQ community. Many of my patients were prostitutes and I'd like to think I was able to befriend some of them in my short time serving them. I would have no qualms about dinner and drinks at their workplaces if it were not a conflict of my medical relationship with them and they were interested in discussing issues of faith and for whatever reason were unable to meet elsewhere.

I don't see why I would want to kill anyone who holds to the law. For people who act like modern day pharisees, I would rebuke them with Christ's words, including "You brood of vipers" and hope they repent.

Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

 

[Salty]

New York City says it is harassment by constantly refusing to call someone by prefered title/gender

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[Matt Black]

It's just plain rude and disrespectful. Good manners to address people how they would like to be addressed; that's what I was brought up with.

 

[Salty]

It's just plain rude and disrespectful. Good manners to address people how they would like to be addressed; that's what I was brought up with.

I am NOT ashamed to call a man "sir" regardless of clothing he is wearing.

Also, I also show respect to adults as addressing them as Mr, Mrs or Miss.

Now what is disrespectful is for a child to call me by my first name.

 

[Revmitchell]

It's just plain rude and disrespectful. Good manners to address people how they would like to be addressed; that's what I was brought up with.

Really? You were brought up with the perversion of transgenders?

Isa_5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

 

[Matt Black]

No, I was brought up not to be rude and disrespectful to others.

 

[Revmitchell]

No, I was brought up not to be rude and disrespectful to others.

Their behavior is rude and disrespectful. I would no more call a man a dog than a would a man a woman. It is a sick, disgusting, perversion and I am not going along with it.

 

[Alcott]

No, I was brought up not to be rude and disrespectful to others.

Very good, madam.

 

[TCassidy]

Good manners to address people how they would like to be addressed;

Great! In the future, please address me as "Your Imperial Majesty." After all, I self identify as the Emperor of the Universe.

 

[Aaron]

A whole nation of snowflakes in the making.

Not snowflakes, but a hoard of violent perverts.

 

[Use of Time]

Really? You were brought up with the perversion of transgenders?

Isa_5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

Man that is an evil manipulation of his words right there. Such a deliberate and dishonest play. He said nothing that could have drawn to that conclusion.

 

[Matt Black]

Great! In the future, please address me as "Your Imperial Majesty." After all, I self identify as the Emperor of the Universe.

Great, so you trivialise gender dysphoria. Not impressed.

 

[carpro]

Great, so you trivialise gender dysphoria. Not impressed.

Gender is simply a matter of chromosomes, not choice.

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and needs treatment.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Gender is simply a matter of chromosomes, not choice.

From a medical perspective, gender is actually quite complicated, even if you exclude personal choice.

There is:
chromosomal gender
external genital gender
internal genital gender
hormonal gender
brain gender

In most cases they all line up. But there are actually many exceptions where they do not. And then there are the situations where one of the above categories include both or neither gender. This is all without personal choice as a factor.

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and needs treatment.

This is true. Gender dysphoria is where gender identity causes clinical distress and often need medical treatment. But there are many folks who have transitioned to their new identity without distress or are no longer distressed. They do not have gender dysphoria.