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Featured Catholic tradition, not the Bible, teaches a change to Sundaykeeping.

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  1. Adonia

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    Now that makes perfect sense. Go to the place where the people you want to reach are.
     
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    Read your Bible and see which day the Bible say is the Lords day.
     
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    Need to look a little more to see what its based on...

    The retention of the old pagan name, 'Dies Solis' [day of the Sun] or 'Sunday' for the weekly Christian festival, is, in great measure, owing to the union of pagan and Christian sentiment, with which the first day of the week was recommended by Constantine to his subjects, Pagan and Christian alike, as the venerable day of the sun' . . . It was his mode of harmonizing the discordant religions of the empire under one common institution." --Dean Stanley [Episcopalian leader], Lectures on the Eastern Church, Lecture 6, p. 184.

    "Constantine labored at this time untiringly to unite the worshipers of the old [pagan] and the new [Christian] faith in one religion. All his laws and contrivances are aimed at promoting this amalgamation [combining] of religions. He would by all lawful and peaceable means melt together a purified heathen ism and a moderated [compromising] Christianity . . . Of all his blending and melting together of Christianity and heathenism none is more easy to see through than this making of his Sunday law. The Christians worshiped their Christ, the heathen their sun-god; according to the opinion of the Emperor, the objects for worship in both religions being the same [the worship of a divine person on a select day of the week]."--H. G. Heggtveit, Illustreret Kirkehistorie, 1895, p. 202. [Hallvard Heggtveit (1850-1924) was a Norwegian church historian and teacher].


    It was the Roman Imperial plan on several occasions, to unite all religions of the Empire into one religion--sun-worship: "The Jewish, the Samaritan, even the Christian, were to be fused and recast into one great system, of which the sun was to be the central object of adoration."--Henry Hart Milman, The History of Christianity, bk. 2, chap. 8 (Vol. II, p. 175). [Dr. Milman (1791-1868) was an important historian of England and dean of St. Paul's Cathedral in London].


    When Christianity conquered Rome the ecclesiastical structure of the pagan church, the title and vestments of the pontifex maximus, the worship of the Great Mother and a multitude of comforting divinities, the sense of supersensible presences everywhere, the joy or solemnity of old festivals, and the pageantry of immemorial ceremony, passed like maternal blood into the new religion, and captive Rome captured her conqueror. The reins and skill of government were handed down by a dying empire to a virile papacy; the lost power of the broken sword was rewon by the magic of the consoling word; the armies of the state were replaced by the missionaries of the Church moving in all directions along the Roman roads; and the revolted provinces, accepting Christianity, again acknowledged the sovereignty of Rome. Through the long struggles of the Age of Faith the authority of the ancient capital persisted and grew, until in the Renaissance the classic culture seemed to rise from the grave, and the immortal city became once more the center of summit of the world's life and wealth and art. When, in 1936, Rome celebrated the 2689th anniversary of her foundation, she could look back upon the most impressive continuity of government and civilization in the history of mankind. May she rise again.(CAESAR AND CHRIST, A history of Roman Civilization and of Christianity from their beginnings to A.D.325. By Will Durant-1944)
     
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    All hail the prophetess Ellen White!
     
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    Sunday is the Day when Lord Jesus arose and there was a new age ushered in so now observed!
     
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    We hold tgo scriptures alone, so by that the earliest Christians would not even have known of the heresies brought in under Rome later on!
     
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    Tells you that Ellen White was elevated in teachings above even Jesus Christ!
     
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    The One who rose from the grave!
     
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    Man of Sin is final Antichrist, and not arrived yet!
     
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    Ellen White teachings to Sda trumped theirs!
     
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    The "god" who spoke to Joseph Smith and Adam and eve!
     
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    Under the OC or the NC though?
     
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    If the Sda just would admit EW was false prophetess, and was wrong about Hell, Sabbath, Investigative Judgement, soul; sleep, would become Baptists!
     
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    Not to mention their false beliefs that Jesus is the archangel Michael, hell is not eternal, there are "steps" to being saved (as per EGW's stuff) & other garbage.
     
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    They are a really interesting Cult, for just like Rome, hold to Trinity, but have another and a false Gospel!
     
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    If you don't like Catholic tradition, why do you rely on it to tell you what books of the New Testament are the actual inspired word of God?
     
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    And I would give the same response I gave before: that while history is instructive, it is not inspired nor authoritative and that we draw our doctrine from the authority of scripture, not from the opinions of other men.

    If you're so insistent on following the law, then perhaps you should take Paul's advice to the Judaizers in Galatians and circumcizer yourself "all the way".
     
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    Because even the RCC got some things right. While I'm not saying the RCC was pagan then, don't forget that God has used pagans to accomplidh His will. I believe the results of several of the RCC Councils were influenced by God, such as in their choice of canon. (Except the Apocrypha)
     
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    Correct ! As many of the early Christians were Jews, they met on Sundays as Christians to avoid being accused of heretical Sabbath-breaking & executed by the Orthodox Jews. I am told most of those Christian jews still kept the sabbath also, obeying God's command to ISRAEL to observe it for ever.

    Once more, Sportzz fanzz, there's NO command of GOD'S for GENTILES to observe the sabbath !
     
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