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[Walpole]

But the Pope has only thrown McCarrick out and McCarrick escaped arrest and trial because of his money and is living the life of Riley somewhere and told Salon that what he did was not so bad.

More Fake News. Here are a few others he has defrocked...

Archbishop Francisco José Cox Huneeus
Bishop Marco Antonio Órdenes Fernández
Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron
Rev. Fernando Karadima

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The joke is your whining that you can't find a Baptist church to your satisfaction anywhere within hundreds of miles of you and you live in a densely populated area. Also, I noticed you didn't tell Thinkingstuff you thought his affinity to the CC was joke. But, then he knew CC teaching way better than you ever will.

It is comforting to know that I can rattle your cage any time I want to. Thinking stuff has family obligations that drew him back to Roman Catholicism which I understand... my family on the other hand advised me to run as far away as I could (and they have been Roman Catholics since Constantine). In one generation my catholic family has rejected the RCC for varied forms of non denominational and denominational ( non catholic ) churches... and my brother and two first cousins are pastors/elders in these churches. And unlike the RCC we don’t go to hell if we don’t step the sacraments like going to hell for not going to mass and Holy Days of Obligation. How liberating it is to have a God who provides saving grace vs sacraments. Thank you Jesus.

 

[Walpole]

The worldwide Catholic membership has increased by leaps and bounds. In the US Christianity is on the decline across the board as it is in Europe, Scandinavia, etc.

Would you like me to post the then normous growth in the Catholic Church throughout the world? it's easily done you know!

Exactly.

---> Number of Catholics in World Grows: There Are More Than 1.3 Billion - ZENIT - English

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The worldwide Catholic membership has increased by leaps and bounds. In the US Christianity is on the decline across the board as it is in Europe, Scandinavia, etc.

Would you like me to post the then normous growth in the Catholic Church throughout the world? it's easily done you know!

How you doing in the USA? And how about Europe?

 

[church mouse guy]

ETWN has multiple media platforms. Go to EWTN. This is where they keep the majority of their video content and the link I have provided you multiple times now is from ETWN and contains their broadcast of the Good Friday service from the Basilica.

The Good Friday service took place at the NATIONAL SHRINE. It streamed on their own site but was broadcasted by EWTN. Here is the National Shrine's own website stating their Holy Week services will be broadcasted on EWTN...

"Each event is livestreamed by the Basilica at www.nationalshrine.org/mass and broadcast live on EWTN."

---> Join Us Virtually as We Observe Palm Sunday, Holy Week & Easter - National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception

You are really mixed up. The video that you linked twice is from the National Shrine, not EWTN, and that video that you linked is not on the EWTN website. Then you linked EWTN YouTube but you have not linked the Rossi broadcast with an EWTN source. I don't know how to explain it to you any better than that.

As for your comment about McCarrick, I was talking about the bunch in DC wherein only McCarrick was finally thrown out. Rossi is still there. Wuerl in spite of all of his collaboration with McCarrick and Francis is retired, not disgraced although the high school named after him had their sign with his name destroyed and the high school renamed. How would you like to go to school in a building named for a guy who covered up the rapes of McCarrick? Tobin was passed over but is in New Jersey and was recently in talks with the Governor there about the pandemic for some reason.

Read your own links. They both say National Shrine. Yes, they were broadcast on EWTN--a homosexual predator preached on EWTN on Good Friday. However, EWTN no longer links it although Rossi has it linked on the National Shrine website where he is in charge. Voris scooped you. You didn't know it. Voris said that it was linked by EWTN but they took down the link and you yourself have not been able to find an EWTN link although you found the broadcast with an internal logo of EWTN but the broadcast that you found was not linked by EWTN but by Rossi and the National Shrine. Voris never said that the National Shrine took their copy of the broadcast down. Voris provided video of his statement as well as a transcript.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No, I searched EWTN and it is not linked by them. What you posted from YouTube shows that it came from the National Shrine, not EWTN. It shows the National Shrine as having 32.4K subscribers and it says that it was streamed live to YouTube and that means that they streamed it. Don't you understand that?

As Voris said, EWTN broadcast it and then removed it from their website. Don't you understand that?

Maybe this will help
Why Is Msgr. Walter Rossi Still in Public Ministry?

 

[Walpole]

You are really mixed up. The video that you linked twice is from the National Shrine, not EWTN, and that video that you linked is not on the EWTN website. Then you linked EWTN YouTube but you have not linked the Rossi broadcast with an EWTN source. I don't know how to explain it to you any better than that.

As for your comment about McCarrick, I was talking about the bunch in DC wherein only McCarrick was finally thrown out. Rossi is still there. Wuerl in spite of all of his collaboration with McCarrick and Francis is retired, not disgraced although the high school named after him had their sign with his name destroyed and the high school renamed. How would you like to go to school in a building named for a guy who covered up the rapes of McCarrick? Tobin was passed over but is in New Jersey and was recently in talks with the Governor there about the pandemic for some reason.

Read your own links. They both say National Shrine. Yes, they were broadcast on EWTN--a homosexual predator preached on EWTN on Good Friday. However, EWTN no longer links it although Rossi has it linked on the National Shrine website where he is in charge. Voris scooped you. You didn't know it. Voris said that it was linked by EWTN but they took down the link and you yourself have not been able to find an EWTN link although you found the broadcast with an internal logo of EWTN but the broadcast that you found was not linked by EWTN but by Rossi and the National Shrine. Voris never said that the National Shrine took their copy of the broadcast down. Voris provided video of his statement as well as a transcript.

Ok, let's try this again, since you clearly are not following or pride will not allow you to simply admit you are wrong.

1. On Good Friday, service was held at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C. (What you previously referred to as the "Washington Basilica").

2. This service was live-streamed on the Basilica's website as well as ETWN.

3. EWTN has multiple media platforms and their majority of their video content is housed on their Youtube channel, which is here ---> EWTN

4. You claimed EWTN cut the link to their broadcast of the Good Friday service from the "Washington Basilica." They did not, as I have shown you by providing EWTN's LINK (on their Youtube channel) with the full service, beginning with the Stations of the Cross and continuing on to the Good Friday service, which begins at roughly the 1:00 mark. Here it is again...

--->

This is from ETWN's site, not the National Shrine's. It says, "Right now on EWTN: Stations of the Cross During the COVID Pandemic and Commemoration of the Lord's Passion, live from the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C."

5. This Rossi person you are seemingly obsessed with is right there. His name is clearly displayed (by EWTN) at the 1:38:59 mark when he begins is homily.

6. If you don't believe the words of EWTN (stating it is their broadcast), there is further evidence that this broadcast is from ETWN: The logo in the corner of the video...

...is the EWTN official logo ---> EWTN Global Catholic Television Network: Catholic News, TV, Radio | EWTN


Pride and now fake news apparently die hard.


And here is a list of defrocked priests from the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. There's more than McCarrick listed there. Thus he was not the only one thrown out. More of your Fake News refuted.

 

[Walter]

How you doing in the USA? And how about Europe?

Already addressed. Christianity in general is in steep decline both in the United States, Europe, Scandinavia. Baptist churches in our area are 2/3 empty. So are the Lutheran Churches and other Evangelical churches. I can tell you that our church has standing room only at each and every Mass

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Already addressed. Christianity in general is in steep decline both in the United States, Europe, Scandinavia. Baptist churches in our area are 2/3 empty. So are the Lutheran Churches and other Evangelical churches. I can tell you that our church has standing room only at each and every Mass

I don’t care about the decline of any church... they did it to themselves by not preaching the word, they did not emphasize born again experiences, they treated the laity like attendees at a circus etc. The church I was raised in closed their school 3 years ago, got rid of their homosexual priest and told the bishop to not send them any more homosexual priests... good for them! The Baptist church my brothers family attends also just closed their school. There is going to be a lot of this I’m sure after this virus scare.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

But oh, I guess they can all be excused and forgotten because it's only the Catholic clergymen and their sinful deeds that need to be shouted from the rooftops, right my friend?

No, that is not right. Sin among professing believers is an abomination. I have never read or heard of any Baptist leader using their position to protect or provide cover for any other Baptist pastors/leaders/workers who are known to sexually abuse young people or engage in sexual relations with other adults other than their spouse.

Can you truthfully make a similar claim concerning RCC?

 

[Walpole]

No, that is not right. Sin among professing believers is an abomination. I have never read or heard of any Baptist leader using their position to protect or provide cover for any other Baptist pastors/leaders/workers who are known to sexually abuse young people or engage in sexual relations with other adults other than their spouse.

Can you truthfully make a similar claim concerning RCC?

Get your head out of the sand...

---> Southern Baptists Confront the Abuse Crisis They Knew Was Coming

---> https://caringwell.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/SBC-Caring-Well-Report-June-2019.pdf

 

[Salty]

The worldwide Catholic membership has increased by leaps and bounds. In the US Christianity is on the decline across the board as it is in Europe, Scandinavia, etc.

I realize that - as the article stated - I was just pointing out what is going on in the USA

Would you like me to post the then normous growth in the Catholic Church throughout the world? it's easily done you know!

NO - for the reason stated above

Btw, about the same percentage of people go from evangelical to Catholic as the other way around. Oh, and this year the largest group being received into our CC are leaving the Baptist! They were surprised to find out they wouldn't need to be re-baptized.

Negative - according to the article: - there are 6.5 former Catholics in the U.S. for every convert to the faith.

 

[Walter]

It is comforting to know that I can rattle your cage any time I want to. Thinking stuff has family obligations that drew him back to Roman Catholicism which I understand... my family on the other hand advised me to run as far away as I could (and they have been Roman Catholics since Constantine). In one generation my catholic family has rejected the RCC for varied forms of non denominational and denominational ( non catholic ) churches... and my brother and two first cousins are pastors/elders in these churches. And unlike the RCC we don’t go to hell if we don’t step the sacraments like going to hell for not going to mass and Holy Days of Obligation. How liberating it is to have a God who provides saving grace vs sacraments. Thank you Jesus.

Thinkingstuff is Catholic because he BELIEVES it is TRUE. I know, I have talked to him at length. I also know you tried to meet with him ' for a beer" and beg him to reconsider. He declined your invitation. Ring a bell?

You don't Rattle My Cage, partner. Pretty sure it's the other way around!

 

[Walter]

I realize that - as the article stated - I was just pointing out what is going on in the USA

NO - for the reason stated above

Negative - according to the article: - there are 6.5 former Catholics in the U.S. for every convert to the faith.

In the U.S., there are many, many cultural Catholics who never actually embraced the faith. I don't doubt that they're Easy Pickins for evangelicals, Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses. Lots of cultural Catholics end up as Jehovah Witnesses

I realize that - as the article stated - I was just pointing out what is going on in the USA

NO - for the reason stated above

Negative - according to the article: - there are 6.5 former Catholics in the U.S. for every convert to the faith.

And the United States there are a lot of cultural Catholics that end up in fundamentalist and Cults like LDS and Jehovah Witnesses. Worldwide the conversion rate is about the same between evangelicals and Catholics. I think that many of the conversions that are taking place from Evangelical to Catholic happen through people finally being educated, like myself. I was as rabidly anti-catholic as the worst on this board who I will not name. However, I finally decided to study Catholicism for myself with the intent of proving it to be a cult. Guess what?

Born-again Catholics: Evangelicals crossing the Tiber

 

[Walpole]

In the U.S., there are many, many cultural Catholics who never actually embraced the faith. I don't doubt that they're Easy Pickins for evangelicals, Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses. Lots of cultural Catholics end up as Jehovah Witnesses


And the United States there are a lot of cultural Catholics that end up in fundamentalist and Cults like LDS and Jehovah Witnesses. Worldwide the conversion rate is about the same between evangelicals and Catholics. I think that many of the conversions that are taking place from Evangelical to Catholic happen through people finally being educated, like myself. I was as rabidly anti-catholic as the worst on this board who I will not name. However, I finally decided to study Catholicism for myself with the intent of proving it to be a cult. Guess what?

Born-again Catholics: Evangelicals crossing the Tiber

"The more I prayed and studied the Bible, the Church Fathers and history, the more I felt God calling me to be Protestant." - said no one


It is the poorly formed who are leaving the Church, whereas there is an influx of intellectuals / pastors / theologians from Protestantism who are becoming Catholic. The trend is quite remarkable. Some names that come to mind are Matthew Levering, Douglas Farrow, J. Budziszewski, Christian Smith and Reinhard Hutter. By contrast, can anyone name a Catholic theologian or intellectual who has abandoned his faith for one of the various protestant sects? The fact is those who leave the Church are by and large the uncatechized. One need look no further than the supposed former Catholics who post here, Carm or any other popular online discussion forums. They continuously post strawmen, indicative of them not knowing the faith they supposedly abandoned.

Here is Dr. Norman Geisler (a Protestant) confirming this trend...

"So, while we are losing a few intellectual egg-heads out of the top of evangelicalism to Rome, we are gaining tens of thousands of converts out the bottom from Catholicism." - Norman Geisler


In a strange twist of irony, Dr. Geisler co-wrote a book entitled, Is Rome the True Church? Shortly after its publication, the book's co-author, Joshua Betancourt, himself became Catholic.

 

[Walpole]

@church mouse guy : A cursory browse on EWTN's Facebook page also turned up the link to Good Friday service at the Basilica on that platform as well.

--->

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=274422283566508

Next time do your homework before posting Fake News.

 

[Walter]

No, that is not right. Sin among professing believers is an abomination. I have never read or heard of any Baptist leader using their position to protect or provide cover for any other Baptist pastors/leaders/workers who are known to sexually abuse young people or engage in sexual relations with other adults other than their spouse.

Can you truthfully make a similar claim concerning RCC?

Pay close attention to the: 'Hush It Up' link

StopBaptistPredators.org

 

[church mouse guy]

@church mouse guy : A cursory browse on EWTN's Facebook page also turned up the link to Good Friday service at the Basilica on that platform as well.

--->

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=274422283566508

Next time do your homework before posting Fake News.

Stations of the Cross was not done by Rossi. You are really out to lunch.

 

[Walpole]

Stations of the Cross was not done by Rossi. You are really out to lunch.

Fake news! I never claimed Stations of the Cross were done by Rossi. The Good Friday service (commemoration of the Lord's Passion) in the EWTN broadcasted-link begins around the 1:00 mark. And this Rossi person you are so obsessed with is there plain as day at at the 1:38:50 mark.

Stop with the Fake News!

 

[church mouse guy]

Stations of the Cross preceded the Good Friday service. I have told you repeatedly it begins around the 1:00 mark. And this Rossi person you are so obsessed with is there plain as day at at the 1:38:50 mark.

Stop with the Fake News!

There you go again with the video posted by Rossi. I guess that you just don't understand how computers work.