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I am asking you how your wife feels about your drinking? Is she fine with it? Does it ever bother her? If so, why does it bother her?

I personally don't drink, so I can't answer a question like this.

 

Personally......I was able to do this about 3 days ago. My neighbor was laboring in the hot summer sun mowing his lawn with his $200 Craftsman push-mower.

I jumped on my $2,500 40" zero-turn Ariens commercial mower with a cold Yuengling and polished off his lawn in about 5 mins.......and then rode up to the sweat-soaked young man with an ice-cold refreshing brew.

I'm white and he is black....and his reaction was such that, after jawing about the "Gators" and the "Jaguars" a bit...he opened-up, and I could share Christ with him and hand him a gospel tract. (A KJV one of course :laugh. Anyone who thinks that it "hurts your witness" to give a sweat-soaked young man a refreshing cold beer...............has never tried to witness to such an individual after handing him one. It works! :thumbs:

 

I wasn't implying anything, simply curious. We all have to stand before God and give account for ourselves someday, but we have to stand before our wives NOW. :laugh:

 

O.K........"teetotaler-speak" grates on my nerves to no end sometimes. I usually avoid these kinds of threads (I usually simply refuse to read them)....because most teetotalers speak nothing but nonsense. I got my dander up and got defensive

Sorry if I jumped to conclusions about your intent

 

That's ok. It was a very cruel question, I freely admit that. :thumbs:

I would still be interested in how Luke and others would answer this.

 

:thumbsup::thumbsup::applause::thumbsup:

 

The most important thing in this whole discussion is not to call your brother's liberty evil. Likewise your brother is not to call your voluntary limit on liberty (commonly referred to as a scruple) evil. Both sides need to consider how their view of Christian liberty can effect others and take strides to eliminate or lessen any negative perceptions. After all we are our brother's keeper.

 

Fried chicken..southern thing not Baptist thing. Up in Yankee land its baked ziti.

 

Yingling...An American made lager! :thumbs:

 

My wife, being a recovering alcoholic, knows full well the difference between a drunk and a non drunk. She is fine with my drinking cause I'm not an abuser.

 

Christ made fermented wine for those who were already intoxicated. If you don't think the wine was fermented, or that the drinkers were already intoxicated, you could be a (1) a fundamentalist, (2) don't have access to a concordance, or (3) have no desire to look up the original meanings of the words of Scripture; just to continue believing what you have been taught.

"And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there: And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage. And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come. His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it. And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim. And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it. When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk(to drink to intoxication), then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him" (John 2:1-11)

 

Here is one that preached against it just last Sunday.

 

I hear you can spot them a mile away. They just got a certain look about them.

 

and that nasty PIG that YAH said NOT to consume--:smilewinkgrin:

 

Luke,

This is a well thought out post. Perhaps reading Desiring God by John Piper has helped you, as Piper does not argue we cannot enjoy life, but that we can! Christian Heidionism means we can enjoy life and be glad, but be glad in God for He brings us delight!

 

No one wants to get drunk. There is nothing wrong with having a Mikes Lemonade while I eat my chicken while I watch TV, or read. This is not sin, so stop trying to turn it into a sin.

 

I would not take it that far Luke. People have the right to choose not to drink or to drink. Its not wise to condemn those that choose to abstain from alcoholic beverages. Have you read the Meat and vegetables chapter in Romans? Luke we need to not do anything that would cause another brother to stumble and that includes drinking if it does. However if it does not we have the freedom to drink if we do mot get drunk and sin.