Chip implants and the anti-christ

Ah, there you is.

Heb. 10:25
"Let us not give up meeting together, as some in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another - and all the more as you see the Day approaching" (NIV)

The phrase "see the Day" only appears here in God's Word. The Greek for "see" is emblepo, 11 of the 12x it is used in the NT someone is looking straightforward, usually with a look of interest, love, or concern. Jesus "looked" at the rich young man and loved him Mk. 10:21. He later "looked" at the disciples as he discussed an important issue (Mt. 19:26; Mk. 10:27).

The "Day" refers to our blessed hope when we are raptured (vs.37-39). To enable the Church to look straightforward to that day one must come and correctly reveal this Day to the Church.

The person who reveals this Day is the "righteous one" who lives by faith (v.38), and lives among the righteous in America (Hab. 2:4). NIV

Knowing the hour of the Rapture has two possibilities, depending on whether standard time or daylight time used by the Lord. I lean towards standard time as used in the 1st Century. It will occur night time here at an hour I know.

I don't know the hour or day of the Second Coming, Scripture plainly states we can not know, but does not restrict us from knowing the week, month or year of it. There is a week in December of a certain year that probably is the week of His return with December a certainty.

On the "day his feet stand on the Mount of Olives" it will be a "unique day" a day with no light and "no cold or frost" (Zec. 14:4,6). If this day occurred during the summer it would not be a unique day because normally there is no cold or frost. Coming on a day in December without cold or frost would make it a unique day thus confiming His return to be during the winter.

 

There is a bank in Wash. state which has an ad on tv. A man walks up to the bank teller ands asks to check his account. The teller has him lean over and she stamps a code bar on his forehead, he asked her what that was for. She told him it is their new tracking system to keep in touch with their customers.

Then he waits in another line while a teller is rubbing a mans forehead over a scanner, she is having trouble with the scanner. She is saying"I hate it when these darn things don't scan"

I wonder if the people whom came up with that ad knew how close to prophecy they were ?

 

Our dog has a chip implanted in her, I think this give us a good chance to get her back if she becomes lost.

The Bible does not speak of animals having the mark of the beast.

Chip implants in animals is a safety net for them.

 

Since you know the precise date and time of the Rapture could you please share it with us PN? Lets use GMT since it is universal and does not change with daylight savings time. This will allow everyone to know if you are right or wrong. Since you know there should not be a problem sharing it.

Plus, I would love an explanation of how Habakkuk 2v4 tells us that a righteous person in America will reveal the day of the rapture.

 

Not every one will know if I'm right or wrong until it happens. As said before, it's not the time or place to reveal it, later when my book is published you can decide for yourself. There is one person who attends the same church I'm a member of that fully accepts the day and hour of the Rapture and the year of the 2nd coming. Our Pastor believes in the day and hour of the Rapture and the year of the Second Coming, but lacks the courage to admit it. I'm sure there are members in the Council of Eighteen of GARBC that believe also, but I have not heard from them.

As to Hab. 2 read the following links:

http://www.rense.com/general61/bbil.shtm

http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/rape3.shtml


What the Federal Reserve has done to America the World Bank and Inernational Monetary Fund has done to the nations of the world.

"The righteous one" Hebrews 10

Verses 37-38 were adapted by the author of Hebrews from the Septuagint of Habakkuk 2:3-4, a prophet who spoke of a coming revelation concerning America and "the righteous" residing there. Hebrews changes it to the coming of Jesus and a righteous person. The connotation from these related Scriptures is that the "righteous one" lives among the "righteous" who live in America.

There are other references to this "righteous one" in the Gospels.

 

And what does this have to do with Habakkuk? Are you claiming to be the righteous one from America who will reveal that day of the rapture? Why do you put America where the Bible does not put it?

Can we say "false prophet?"

 

You sure can, doesn't bother me one bit.

 

Both. </font>[/QUOTE]I'm still waiting. Kindly answer the question. What is the date for His appearing for the Church, and what is the date for the Second Coming in Judgement. An aproximate date range will do.

If you are unable to provide dates, then you are proving yourself to be a false prophet, following a long line of false prophets like Hal Lindsey, Texx Marrs, and David Hunt, proving once again that gullible sheep can be fleeced by crying wolf.

 

And I thought this thread was all sewed up.

You can figure it out yourselves, you don't need a guru to tell you.

In the 1940s the boundaries of various Middle East countries were established, Israel November 29,1947 and Syria several years before. The fig tree and all the other trees (Lk. 21:29) sprouting leaves figurative speaks of the formation of these nations. The generation born about the same time of the birth of these nations will not all pass away before the things in Mt. 24, Mark 13 and LK. 21 are fulfilled. The length of this generation is 70 years.

Daniel's 70th week is the last 7 years ending with the Second Coming during the winter months, the Rapture is 3.5 years prior to it.

Go figure, oh smart one.

 

Wow! With this kind of conjecture, guesswork, and presupposition even a dummy like me can figure it out.

Let me see -

November 29, 1947 (as good a date as any I suppose) plus a 70 year generation (thats as good a guess as any I suppose)takes us to November 29, 2017.

Subtract 3 1/2 years (as good a guess as any I suppose) and we come up with a definite rapture date of May 29, 2014. Am I right?

That would mean the tribulation will start on November 29, 2010?

See, I too can be a false prophet. Since I am a pre-trib rapturist I declare a rapture date of Novemeber 29, 2010!



PLEASE folks - I hope you realise that all pre-trib, pre-mil rapturists are not like our brother PN.

 

Hey prophecy nut,
Seems Peter and John thought the appearing and the second coming were the same thing. You know the "Apokalupsis of Jesus Christ"? Well, I Peter 1:7 has "apokalupsis" behind "appearing". What about that? The "every eye shall see Him" coming of Revelation 1:7 is the "appearing" of I Peter 1:7. Isn't that neat?

 

No, approximate date.

No, the Tribulation is 3.5 years.

 

No, the tribulation is 7 years.

See I am getting good at this false prophecy business .

 

Primepower7

His appearing to the Church is always in the context of God's grace and the heavenly realm.

"Into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade - kept in heaven for you" 1:4

"may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed," v.7

"be self-controlled: set you hope fully on the grace to be given you when Jesus Christ is revealed." 13

I want you to locate in chapter one any reference to the earthly judgements in Mt. 24 and Revelation.

 

After going to church last Sunday night I heard it said there will be only 3 1/2 years of tribulation. That is after the anti-christ appears and desicrates(sp?) the temple. If there is 7 years of tribulation what heralds it in? Although we know when the last 3 1/2 years are.

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


Also at another Revalation/End Time bible study years ago I heard it said when the rapture happens and Jesus comes to get the saints He doesn't touch the Earth, but when He comes back with His saints to reign then he touches the Earth that being his 2nd comming.

I am not saying this is how it will be but my reasoning is this..... if it would be of no concern for Christians why then why....is the reason for all the things to look for in the last days and the warnings? I figure were gonna go through some things and in so doing we can warn the unsaved and hopefully they will heed the Word of the Lord.

1 Thessalonians 5:1-5
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

 

music4him quotes
"If there is 7 years of tribulation what heralds it in?"

The 7 year period begins with the peace covenant that begins the false "Peace and safety" of 1 Thess. 5:3. OT Scriptures on this peace are: Jer. 4:10; 5:14; 8:1,15; 23:17; 14:13; Eze. 13:10,16; 38:8,11,14. Each reference to this peace is followed by judgment, no where in the Bible does it elaborate on what events occur on earth during this peace.

"why....is the reason for all the things to look for in the last days and the warnings?"

The Church is given warnings as to false prophets and teachers, antichrists and the schemes of the evil one, but never the earthly judgments during the "time of the end" which is the great tribulation of 3.5 years covered in MT. 24 and Revelation.

 

YOU made the claim, so YOU need to provide the data. If you don't your statement clearly falls into the category of a false prophet. So, since you made the claim, answer the questions. What is the date for His appearing for the Church, and what is the date for the Second Coming in Judgement. An aproximate date range will do.

 

I gave you adequate data for an approximate date, as to the day and hour of the Rapture and the week of the 2nd coming, you will have to wait like everyone else.

 

Then interpret the data and tell me what the dates are, since you claim to know what the dates are. All you've done here is provided yourself an "out" instead of being held accountable for your claim that you know that the specific dates are.

So again, what are the specific dates or date ranges, in your interpretation?

 

1947 + 70 years = 2017 Dec. Second Coming - 3.5 years = 2014 summer Rapture.