Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

[Silverhair]

False accusation

Ten prove me wrong and actually look at the context when you post.

 

[Brightfame52]

To quote you BF "But you said the Person and work of Christ saved no one !"

That's what you said, don't be dishonest.

Here you go see post 183

Calvinism Made Me Doubt My Salvation

That is what we see in scripture as I have pointed out to you a number of times. What kind of worship is that to Christ to tell him his death did not save anyone?

www.baptistboard.com

 

[Brightfame52]

Ten prove me wrong and actually look at the context when you post.

You know you made a false accusation, show were I ignored the context.

 

[Silverhair]

False accusation

Then prove me wrong and actually make your posts reflect the context.

 

[Silverhair]

That's what you said, don't be dishonest.

Here you go see post 183

Calvinism Made Me Doubt My Salvation

That is what we see in scripture as I have pointed out to you a number of times. What kind of worship is that to Christ to tell him his death did not save anyone?

www.baptistboard.com

This what I wrote in post 183

"His death did not save anyone BF what it did was cover the sins of humanity His resurrection has made salvation possible form anyone that will freely trust in Him.

Why do you have such a hard time accepting what the bible clearly teaches?"

As I said please do not lie about what I have posted BF. Very un-Christian of you to do so.

 

[Brightfame52]

Then prove me wrong and actually make your posts reflect the context.

What I showed you was from the context. Eph 1-2 are within the same context of the letter, Its all about the praise of Gods Grace Eph 1:4-6

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Eph 2:7

7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

Election is of grace Rom 11:5

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

So you made a false accusation

 

[Brightfame52]

This what I wrote in post 183

"His death did not save anyone BF what it did was cover the sins of humanity

Duh correct, you said the death of Christ saved no one ! So you dont trust Him for Salvation, if His death didnt save anyone.

 

[Brightfame52]

This what I wrote in post 183

"His death did not save anyone BF what it did was cover the sins of humanity His resurrection has made salvation possible form anyone that will freely trust in Him.

So I can hear you in the day of Judgment, lord I trusted you for salvation but your death didnt save me lol

 

[Silverhair]

You know you made a false accusation, show were I ignored the context.

You do realize that context is not just a few verse on either side of a chosen verse. We have to consider the chapter the book and the whole NT or even the whole word of God. This is what you miss all the time BF.

The Holy Spirit tells us we are saved by faith in the risen Christ and you say that is wrong that we were saved at the cross. Who should I believe BF? You or the Holy Spirit?

 

[Silverhair]

What I showed you was from the context. Eph 1-2 are within the same context of the letter, Its all about the praise of Gods Grace Eph 1:4-6

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Eph 2:7

7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

Election is of grace Rom 11:5

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

So you made a false accusation

And you ignore Eph 1:13-14. Yes God predestined us to adoption through faith in Christ Jesus. God foreknew all those that would trust in His son but He did not pick out select ones to do so. That is you reading into the text BF.

 

[Brightfame52]

You do realize that context is not just a few verse on either side of a chosen verse. We have to consider the chapter the book and the whole NT or even the whole word of God. This is what you miss all the time BF.

i know the context

 

[Silverhair]

Duh correct, you said the death of Christ saved no one ! So you dont trust Him for Salvation, if His death didnt save anyone.

Read what I posted BF and then read what the Holy Spirit had Paul write
1Co 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised.
1Co 15:17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.

Now compare that to what I had posted
"His death did not save anyone BF what it did was cover the sins of humanity His resurrection has made salvation possible for anyone that will freely trust in Him."

You just proved that you do not read or post things in context BF.

If you cannot be honest in how you deal with the word of God then why should anyone trust what you say.

 

[Brightfame52]

And you ignore Eph 1:13-14

false accusation for thats part of Eph 1-2 about the elect

 

[Silverhair]

i know the context

The you should post accordingly.

 

[Brightfame52]

Read what I posted BF

I did, you posted Christs death saved no one. That statement doesn't reflect Faith in His Blood/Death. To be honest its an antichrist blasphemy.

 

[Silverhair]

false accusation for thats part of Eph 1-2 about the elect

There you go reading your religion into the text again BF. Vs 13-14 tell us how we can become part of the elect.

 

[Brightfame52]

The you should post accordingly.

I posted according to the truth needed to be highlighted from the context

 

[Brightfame52]

There you go reading your religion into the text again BF. Vs 13-14 tell us how we can become part of the elect.

Eph 1-2 is the truth

 

[Brightfame52]

There you go reading your religion into the text again BF. Vs 13-14 tell us how we can become part of the elect.

No matter what you trust Christ as a potential possible Saviour since you believe there are people He came to save, shall still be lost in their sins in unbelief anyway.

 

[Marooncat79]

But why did He have mercy on your poor wicked soul since you did not even exist B4 creation?

But the real question that you did not deal with is "how do you know that you were actually picked?"

Calvinist theory says even the faith you have had to be given to you. And as Calvin rightly said it could just be what he termed as "Evanescent" faith. According to Calvin, God gave such people a delusion that made them think they were saved, and even feel like they were saved, only to eventually remove this fleeting grace and reveal that they were just deluded hypocrites that God had never regenerated and whose faith, while it seemed very real to them, was not real faith at all.

So again I ask, how do you know you are saved?

I was chosen hence believe the Gospel according to I Cor 15:1-8. I could not do it myself. There is no good thing in me

Yes. The Bible teaches that faith is a gift of God. Epj 2:8-10

Yes. God deceives people. Thats why we are tonexamine ourselves to see if we are in the faith