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Christians in politics

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by JonC, Feb 24, 2021.

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  1. Quantrill

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    Nice speech. But it doesn't address what you said in post #(75).

    Your comparison's don't work. You identified politics in post #(75) for a Christian, as politics in the Church. Any politics involving the world was wrong.

    Therefore, if a Christian plumber plumbs a home not owned by Christians, then, according to you, he is wrong with God.

    All you other speech is just smoke.

    Quantrill
     
    #121 Quantrill, Mar 3, 2021
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    1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.... This not directed at you Jon but to all... You who talk the talk, do you walk the walk?... What is the flip side of what Paul says?... If I don't follow Christ!... DON'T YOU FOLLOW ME!... Brother Glen:(

    Btw... Brethren we all walk with feet of clay!
     
    #122 tyndale1946, Mar 3, 2021
  3. Quantrill

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    Exactly right.

    Quantrill
     
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  4. Yeshua1

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    Do you want to live in a society that states abortion is good, gay and lesbian rights are top of the list, and that basically man is the end of all things then?
     
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    The father wrote the truth!
     
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    We are called to be the light and the salt into wherever God places us, so we are to redeem the time, and to bring the influence of the Lord Jesus into areas of Darkness!
     
    #126 Yeshua1, Mar 3, 2021
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    Have you ever seen the sons explanation ?
     
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    Is he not Greek orthodox though?
     
    #128 Yeshua1, Mar 3, 2021
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    You are a fear freak. Nobody I know sights abortions are good and man is the end of all things. Where is this coming from.... heck, I hope not from your church!
     
    #129 Earth Wind and Fire, Mar 3, 2021
  10. JonC

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    Unfortunately you may be right.
     
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    The reason you do not understand is you cannot seem to grasp the difference between a vocation and politics.

    Plumbing, HVAC, painting, walking a dog, washing cars, etc is not politics.
     
    #131 JonC, Mar 3, 2021
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    Wooden or aluminum?
     
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    Exactly.

    @SGO commented that we cannot be filled with the Spirit 24/7.

    I understand this. Scripture gives us black and white; light and darkness; obedient and disobedience; Spirit and fkesh; the world and the kingdom of God.

    Yet we do have a foot in both sides. We are not perfected. We do stumble.
     
    #133 JonC, Mar 3, 2021
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    Nothing the world does is truly good.

    Jesus lived in a society with legalized abortion, homosexuality, paganism, and often the idea man is the end of all things.

    Yet Jesus did not challenge the secular world around Him. He challenged those leading God's people.
     
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    He has insight
     
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    If by influence you mean sharing the gospel then I agree.

    If you mean trying to make sinners live moral lives, then you are teaching another gospel.
     
    #136 JonC, Mar 3, 2021
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    Wooden. I refuse to be intimated by a man with an aluminum bat. The bat could pose a challenge, but I would assume the man holding the aluminum bat to be a sissy.
     
    #137 JonC, Mar 3, 2021
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    Six hour warning
    This thread will be closed no sooner than 1230 am EST (Thr) / 930 pm PST (Wed)
     
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    Hey Jon,

    I clarified that quote with this:

    "So you never sin or grieve Him?

    He does not leave but He gets hurt.

    And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
    Ephesians 4:30"

    Post#83

    You slipped again using this world's tactics for the "kingdom".
     
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  20. JonC

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    I am not sure what you mean by using "this world's tactics".

    I am just saying that Christians are not yet perfected.

    John tells us not to sin, but right after that he tells us if we do we have an advocate in Jesus.

    We may slip, but we will never fall if we are in Christ. We may sin, but sin will not be the mark of our lives.

    That said, we can never try to justify our sin.
     
    #140 JonC, Mar 3, 2021
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