"Christmas"

[annsni]

Oh, so you say Christ's birth is only a historical event and equate it with your wedding date and the bombing of Pearl Harbour? And all this time I thought it all had to do with the Messiah!

Good golly! You really DO have some sort of disconnect in your brain, don't you?

Yes, it has to do with the birth of the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. Emmanuel, God is with us. But His birth WAS a historic event - otherwise it's a story. Which do you believe it is?

 

[Harold Garvey]

In remembrance of me, eat this bread.

In remembrance of me, drink this wine.

In remembrance of me, pray for the time when God's own will is done.

And the birth of Christ is according to the will of God. I think this calls for a time of worship!

 

[annsni]

And the birth of Christ is according to the will of God. I think this calls for a time of worship!

It does but it does not call for an "improving" of the Word of God by changing what God has written.

 

[Harold Garvey]

Good golly! You really DO have some sort of disconnect in your brain, don't you?

Yes, it has to do with the birth of the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. Emmanuel, God is with us. But His birth WAS a historic event - otherwise it's a story. Which do you believe it is?

Oh, I've made the connection. God put the event in the Bible and it should be given due recognition as more than an event!

 

[Harold Garvey]

It does but it does not call for an "improving" of the Word of God by changing what God has written.

Placing a footnote or a page heading isnt changing what God has written

 

[annsni]

Placing a footnote or a page heading isnt changing what God has written

But the birth of Christ was not Christmas.

It is the beginning of the greatest thing to ever happen in history.

It was an absolute miracle.

It is worthy of celebrating and remembering for the rest of our natural lives as a holiday.

But it is not Christmas.

If it would make you feel better do this: take a pen, go to Luke 2 and write "Christmas" at the top of the page. Ahhhh - all's good now. :thumbsup:

 

[Harold Garvey]

BTW - The "grandeur" is still here 24 1/2 years later. :thumbsup: As a matter of fact, more so now that we've got some mileage under our belts and our relationship is more grand now than it could have ever been then when we were just kids.

Ah, now you are beginning to be swayed and should see the same emphasis if not more should be placed on the birth of Christ as more than just an event in history!

 

[Harold Garvey]

But the birth of Christ was not Christmas.

It is the beginning of the greatest thing to ever happen in history.

It was an absolute miracle.

It is worthy of celebrating and remembering for the rest of our natural lives as a holiday.

But it is not Christmas.

If it would make you feel better do this: take a pen, go to Luke 2 and write "Christmas" at the top of the page. Ahhhh - all's good now. :thumbsup:

They are one in the same because Christmas is all about The Birth of Christ! Only men have added things to the event

 

[annsni]

They are one in the same because Christmas is all about The Birth of Christ! Only men have added things to the event

But I thought you're saying that Christmas IS the birth of Christ and should be in the Bible. But it's "about"? Hmmmm....

 

[rbell]

Well, I'm learning how to pick a fight, and foolishly carry on an argument, thanks to Harold.

He's obviously well-practiced at the art.

 

[Harold Garvey]

But I thought you're saying that Christmas IS the birth of Christ and should be in the Bible. But it's "about"? Hmmmm....

No different than "the Ten Commandments" is on the page header in Ex 20, "the sermon on the mount" Matt 5,6,7 etc., but I dont see your objections to them! Hmmmmm

 

[SaggyWoman]

And the birth of Christ is according to the will of God. I think this calls for a time of worship!

Let's drink some wine, then!

Actually, I was referring to the institution of Communion. Maybe I will write that as a heading in my Bible.

 

[Harold Garvey]

Well, I'm learning how to pick a fight, and foolishly carry on an argument, thanks to Harold.

He's obviously well-practiced at the art.

Its always such a delight to see what rbell has to add when he's bent on discussing another member instead of the topic. This re minds me of the type who thinks he left a church yet the church couldnt help such so they ran him off. There's always a tone of sweet consolation coming from rbell it makes me all warm and fuzzy, anyone else notice?

 

[rbell]

Its always such a delight to see what rbell has to add when he's bent on discussing another member instead of the topic.

There's a topic?

 

[Harold Garvey]

Let's drink some wine, then!

Actually, I was referring to the institution of Communion. Maybe I will write that as a heading in my Bible.

The wine Jesus doesnt condemn I'll drink , yet there is a wine no different to drink with him that's new. "The Lord's Table" is on the page header in my Bible And I already know what it means, but thanks for reminding me its more personal than just having it at Easter and Christmas each year.

 

[ccrobinson]

So, I wrote this:

Please explain the point of adding a word to Scripture. If the word was supposed to be there, don't you think that God would have put it there? And what's so hard about reading Luke 2 and understanding that it's talking about the birth of Christ, thus, it's what we commonly refer to as the Christmas story?

Harold, you wrote this:

All I will say so as to not be misunderstood is that we agree.

Now, I see that there are 5 more pages of discussion where you claim that the word Christmas should be added to the Bible. If you agree with me, then this discussion is over, isn't it? Not that I'm the end-all of the conversation, but you just agreed that if the word Christmas was supposed to be in the Bible, then God would have put it there. Since the word Christmas isn't in the Bible, I think we're safe in saying that God didn't want that word there. Yet, you continue to advocate adding to the Bible, which seems to be the exact opposite from your usual position on the board, which is the KJV is perfect and doesn't need to be changed.

How can you possibly advocate adding something to the KJV yet continue to hold the position that it's the perfect Word of God? These are mutually exclusive positions and you can't hold both of them unless your view of the KJV has changed.

 

[Harold Garvey]

There's a topic?

You mean those scrutinous eyes which strain at straining out gnats missed it? NOOOOOOOOOOO! say it aint SOOOOOOOOO!

 

[Harold Garvey]

Cc, you cant be adding to something which is already there but you can place a specific page header over the scriptue for reference. Its no different than in most Bibles have, especially for those not familiar enough to know exactly where to turn in their bibles and you object???

 

[annsni]

No different than "the Ten Commandments" is on the page header in Ex 20, "the sermon on the mount" Matt 5,6,7 etc., but I dont see your objections to them! Hmmmmm

The Ten Commandments refer to the actual commandments that were given to Moses. The Sermon on the Mount refers to the actual time that Jesus gave a sermon on the side of a mountain. However, Christmas does not refer to the day of the birth of Christ but a celebration of that day in remembrance. Apples and oranges Harold. Apples and oranges.

 

[SaggyWoman]

"The Lord's Table" is on the page header in my Bible

Jesus was a carpenter and made a table.