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So our disagreement was just over the meaning of "begotten". No problem. We agree completely that Jesus has always been the Son of God. I had only brought up the early creeds because they were a good summary of essential doctrines.
My objections to them are not trivial. I personally have been banned and accused of not being orthodox over what should have been only secondary issues, I thought, before I became fully opposed to those unBiblical teachings they promote. Their failure to acknowledge the Son as sole Creator on behalf of God the Father.
What do you mean by "sole Creator"? God consists of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, so how could Jesus be the sole Creator? John 1:1-2 does not say that Jesus was the sole Creator, but that "all things came into being through Him". OTOH, Genesis 1:1 tells us that "God created the Heaven and the earth". Having said that, getting banned is rather extreme and unfair, especially if you were just having a discussion such as this one.
The Holy Spirit Himself was right there with the father in Genesis 1!
The entire Godhead were partners in creation?
What does John 1:3 teach?
While all things came into being through Jesus, this does not teach He is the sole creator. That would contradict Genesis 1:1-2.
What was the Holy Spirit doing there then?
So "All things" does not really mean "without him was not any thing made that was made."
Other than hovering over the waters, I don't know. All I know for sure is that He was present.
That is not what I said at all. The Scriptures contain many passages that say God created everything. In particular, Isaiah 44:24, the Father says "I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, stretching out the heavens by Myself and spreading out the earth alone". Having said that, the Trinity is a very difficult concept to comprehend, even if we've been following Christ for decades.
No. According to John 1:18 and John 14:6 the only Son spoke to Isaiah.
Both those passages show that Christ reveals the Father. What's your point?
Either the Son actually acts on behalf of the Father or the Trinity are not distinct Persons. The Son is the reason for the Trinity and the reason for creation. Colossians 1:16, ". . . all things were created by him, and for him: . . ."
Again, the fact that all things were created through Christ does not mean created solely through Christ. And again, Scripture records over and over that God created everything. Is this another disagreement over semantics, or are you having trouble with the roles of Father and the Son in the Trinity?
The roles are the reason God is a Trinity of Persons. God cannot be God and not be a Trinity of Persons.
Of course God is One in essence but three in Person. They were all present in the Creation.
They are all the one and the same God. Jesus Christ being the primary agent of creation, Ephesians 3:9 KJV. Also from the cross, Hebrews 1:3.
While the passages you point to show Christ was involved in Creation, they do not show He was the primary agent of Creation. Why is this such a big deal, though? That is, what difference does it really make whether we believe Creation was primarily done by the Father (my view) or by the Son (your view)?