Confession for Baptist’s and Protestants in general

[Cathode]

A Baptist pastor attending a Catholic exorcism was asked if he needed confession among others. One guy said he wanted to go to confession and did, but the Baptist said he confessed directly to God. The others thought the guys response a little strange. The Baptist had asked the priest if he could attend a Catholic Exorcism to see how it was done.

Once the Exorcism began, the demon manifested and locked onto the Baptist and said that since the His baptism at the age of 12, he had committed over 600 mortal sins that he had not confessed and began to name them off in quick succession.

Where Confession is very necessary is before Exorcisms and this is because demons see the mortal sins of those present and name them. They can also harm those not in a state of Grace.

One of the disturbing things about the Protestant rebellion, is the loss of the ministry of reconciliation, where Protestants do not have this Apostolic sacrament available to them anymore if they commit mortal sins. So they accumulate these sins on their souls.

Their change of theology does not even teach about mortal sin, it’s a doctrine their forefathers rejected, so it is completely alien to them. The new doctrine of OSAS definitely doesn’t inform people about mortal sin or the necessity of Confession, in this theology they count themselves saved already.

In street ministry we have seen the same, possessed people naming the sins of others and making their claim on them.
The demons can not see sin on those who have gone to confession and are in a state of Grace. People in a state of Grace are a pain for them to be near.

“In addition to these there is also a seventh, albeit hard and laborious: the remission of sins through penance…when he does not shrink from declaring his sin to a priest of the Lord.” Origen, Homilies on Leviticus, 2:4 (A.D. 248).

“Moreover, how much are they both greater in faith and better in their fear, who, although bound by no crime of sacrifice to idols or of certificate, yet, since they have even thought of such things, with grief and simplicity confess this very thing to God’s priests, and make the conscientious avowal, put off from them the load of their minds, and seek out the salutary medicine even for slight and moderate wounds, knowing that it is written, ‘God is not mocked.’ God cannot be mocked, nor deceived, nor deluded by any deceptive cunning. Yea, he sins the more, who, thinking that God is like man, believes that he evades the penalty of his crime if he has not openly admitted his crime…I entreat you, beloved brethren, that each one should confess his own sin, while he who has sinned is still in this world, while his confession may be received, while the satisfaction and remission made by the priests are pleasing to the Lord?” Cyprian, To the Lapsed, 28-29 (A.D. 251).

“It is necessary to confess our sins to those whom the dispensation of God’s mysteries is entrusted.” Basil, Rule Briefly Treated, 288 (A.D. 374).

“These are capital sins, brethren, these are mortal.” Pacian of Barcelona, Penance, 4 (A.D. 385).

 

[canadyjd]

This entire story is a great big pile of Catholic cowpie.

You think the sins of Baptists are not forgiven because they go straight to Jesus, God Himself, to confess, yet somehow the sins of Catholics are forgiven when they confess to a mere man and are told to say 10 Hail Mary?

You are thoroughly deceived.

Please stop spreading Catholic lies about Baptist Pastors.

Peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

There was a Catholic priest that died and stood before the throne of Judgement.

He heard the words, “depart from Me, I never knew you, ye who work iniquity.”

Peace to you

 

[Cathode]

This entire story is a great big pile of Catholic cowpie.

You think the sins of Baptists are not forgiven because they go straight to Jesus, God Himself, to confess, yet somehow the sins of Catholics are forgiven when they confess to a mere man and are told to say 10 Hail Mary?

You are thoroughly deceived.

Please stop spreading Catholic lies about Baptist Pastors.

Peace to you

For mortal sins, either perfect contrition is needed or Absolution from an Apostolic Successor.

If you have perfect contrition directly to God you will be forgiven and restored to a state of Grace. But you will not know it for sure, and thats only if you have perfect contrition.

However with Apostolic absolution, your contrition does not need to be perfect and you may only have a fear of Hell for instance. But you will know for sure because it has been declared by the priest who forgives sin in the Person of Christ.
The power of forgiving or retaining sin is God breathed on the Apostles as God breathed life into Adam, the Apostolic ministry restores life to those who have fallen into grievous sin.

That is why confession is the sure way to restore people back to a state of Grace.

“All mortal sins are to be submitted to the keys of the Church and all can be forgiven; but recourse to these keys is the only, the necessary, and the certain way to forgiveness. Unless those who are guilty of grievous sin have recourse to the power of the keys, they cannot hope for eternal salvation. Open your lips, them, and confess your sins to the priest. Confession alone is the true gate to Heaven.” Augustine, Christian Combat (A.D. 397).

“Just as in the Old Testament the priest makes the leper clean or unclean, so in the New Testament the bishop and presbyter binds or looses not those who are innocent or guilty, but by reason of their office, when they have heard various kinds of sins, they know who is to be bound and who loosed.” Jerome, Commentary on Matthew, 3:16,19 (A.D. 398).

 

[Cathode]

We see in Bishop Cyprian’s time in the 200s the persecutions of the Romans caused many to lapse in the Faith to save themselves from a tortuous death. They sacrificed to idols to save their lives, when many others faced martyrdom.

These were restored to Grace by openly confessing this great sin to the priests.

God’s Mercy is lavish whilst we are in this world, Jesus established the ministry of reconciliation so that His sheep need only confess their injuries to the Shepherds He appointed down the ages through the laying on of hands from the Apostles.

 

[Cathode]

I would like to encourage Baptist’s or Protestants in general who have had grievous sin in their life after Baptism, to seriously consider confession to a priest , especially if death is a near possibility.

It is biblical and all the Early Christians practiced it. It’s not something to be scared of, rather it is something to be glad of and thankful for.

It is a great gift established by Jesus Himself.

 

[Charlie24]

I would like to encourage Baptist’s or Protestants in general who have had grievous sin in their life after Baptism, to seriously consider confession to a priest , especially if death is a near possibility.

It is biblical and all the Early Christians practiced it. It’s not something to be scared of, rather it is something to be glad of and thankful for.

It is a great gift established by Jesus Himself.

Why would we go through a priest when the Scripture says to come boldly before the Throne of Grace that you may find help in the time of need?

Christ is our Priest, and we are in Him, and the Holy Spirit in us, we don't need a RCC priest.

That is the Old Covenant way, we are in the New Covenant in Christ.

The RCC is like Judaism, they will not give up their traditions of men.

 

[canadyjd]

For mortal sins, either perfect contrition is needed or Absolution from an Apostolic Successor.

If you have perfect contrition directly to God you will be forgiven and restored to a state of Grace. But you will not know it for sure, and thats only if you have perfect contrition.

However with Apostolic absolution, your contrition does not need to be perfect and you may only have a fear of Hell for instance. But you will know for sure because it has been declared by the priest who forgives sin in the Person of Christ.
The power of forgiving or retaining sin is God breathed on the Apostles as God breathed life into Adam, the Apostolic ministry restores life to those who have fallen into grievous sin.

That is why confession is the sure way to restore people back to a state of Grace.

“All mortal sins are to be submitted to the keys of the Church and all can be forgiven; but recourse to these keys is the only, the necessary, and the certain way to forgiveness. Unless those who are guilty of grievous sin have recourse to the power of the keys, they cannot hope for eternal salvation. Open your lips, them, and confess your sins to the priest. Confession alone is the true gate to Heaven.” Augustine, Christian Combat (A.D. 397).

“Just as in the Old Testament the priest makes the leper clean or unclean, so in the New Testament the bishop and presbyter binds or looses not those who are innocent or guilty, but by reason of their office, when they have heard various kinds of sins, they know who is to be bound and who loosed.” Jerome, Commentary on Matthew, 3:16,19 (A.D. 398).

Again, a great big pile of unbiblical Catholic cowpie.

Peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

I would like to encourage Baptist’s or Protestants in general who have had grievous sin in their life after Baptism, to seriously consider confession to a priest , especially if death is a near possibility…..

Death is always a “near possibility”

Christ did not establish your RCC or your priesthood.

I would encourage all Catholics to come directly to our Lord Jesus with your prayers.

Don’t waste time with the RCC traditions of men that are unbiblical and forgive nothing.

I would also encourage you to stop attempting to convert Baptists on this site.

Peace to you

 

[Cathode]

Why would we go through a priest when the Scripture says to come boldly before the Throne of Grace that you may find help in the time of need?

Christ is our Priest, and we are in Him, and the Holy Spirit in us, we don't need a RCC priest.

That is the Old Covenant way, we are in the New Covenant in Christ.

The RCC is like Judaism, they will not give up their traditions of men.

When you go to an Apostolic Successor, you are going to Christ. They are Christ’s ambassadors.
Jesus established the Apostolic successors to represent Him, to bind and loose, to forgive or retain and to preach in His Name.

“We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf”

This is the biblical way.

 

[Charlie24]

When you go to an Apostolic Successor, you are going to Christ. They are Christ’s ambassadors.
Jesus established the Apostolic successors to represent Him, to bind and loose, to forgive or retain and to preach in His Name.

“We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf”

This is the biblical way.

That's where we part, Cathode, you or the RCC cannot prove apostolic succession in the Scripture.

The only apostle that was replaced was to replace Judas Iscariot, and that was due to the fact of 12 stones in the foundation of New Jerusalem bearing their names.

 

[Charlie24]

That's where we part, Cathode, you or the RCC cannot prove apostolic succession in the Scripture.

The only apostle that was replaced was to replace Judas Iscariot, and that was due to the fact of 12 stones in the foundation of New Jerusalem bearing their names.

When I get to New Jerusalem, I'm going to look at the names on those stones, and I'll also look for the names of the Popes.

If I see the names of the Popes in the foundation of New Jerusalem, I'll find you and apologize, but until then.......

 

[Cathode]

Death is always a “near possibility”

Christ did not establish your RCC or your priesthood.

I would encourage all Catholics to come directly to our Lord Jesus with your prayers.

Don’t waste time with the RCC traditions of men that are unbiblical and forgive nothing.

I would also encourage you to stop attempting to convert Baptists on this site.

Peace to you

Not trying to convert anyone.

But to encourage people to make use of the ministry of reconciliation Jesus established, if they have had serious sin in their lives after Baptism.

You can also receive anointing from a priest for the forgiveness of sin.

Whats important is saving souls.

This invitation only applies to those who have had serious sin their lives after Baptism.

 

[Cathode]

That's where we part, Cathode, you or the RCC cannot prove apostolic succession in the Scripture.

The only apostle that was replaced was to replace Judas Iscariot, and that was due to the fact of 12 stones in the foundation of New Jerusalem bearing their names.

We see Apostolic succession in Scripture with the appointment of Elders and Overseers, through the laying on of hands.

Timothy and Titus are blaring examples, the elders Paul called to gather are also blaring examples.

Not only do we see these Scriptural examples, the Early Christians write constantly about the Apostolic succession, the Fathers themselves are of the Apostolic succession, as Bishops, tracing their lineage back to the Apostles through the laying on of hands.

“And thus preaching through countries and cities, they appointed the first-fruits [of their labours], having first proved them by the Spirit, to be bishops and deacons of those who should afterwards believe. Nor was this any new thing, since indeed many ages before it was written concerning bishops and deacons. For thus saith the Scripture a certain place, ‘I will appoint their bishops s in righteousness, and their deacons in faith.’… Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and there would be strife on account of the office of the episcopate. For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect fore-knowledge of this, they appointed those [ministers] already mentioned, and afterwards gave instructions, that when these should fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry…For our sin will not be small, if we eject from the episcopate those who have blamelessly and holily fulfilled its duties.” Pope Clement, Epistle to Corinthians, 42, 44 (A.D. 98).

Clement is mentioned as coworker with Paul in Scripture as is Linus mentioned , these are the Apostolic successors.

Titus is told to “teach and reprove with all Authority “

Timothy is told.

“For this reason, I am reminding you to fan into flames the gift of God that is within you through the laying on of my hands.”

The laying of hands is the passing on of Apostolic Authority to approved and tested men.

 

[Charlie24]

We see Apostolic succession in Scripture with the appointment of Elders and Overseers, through the laying on of hands.

Timothy and Titus are blaring examples, the elders Paul called to gather are also blaring examples.

Not only do we see these Scriptural examples, the Early Christians write constantly about the Apostolic succession, the Fathers themselves are of the Apostolic succession, as Bishops, tracing their lineage back to the Apostles through the laying on of hands.

“And thus preaching through countries and cities, they appointed the first-fruits [of their labours], having first proved them by the Spirit, to be bishops and deacons of those who should afterwards believe. Nor was this any new thing, since indeed many ages before it was written concerning bishops and deacons. For thus saith the Scripture a certain place, ‘I will appoint their bishops s in righteousness, and their deacons in faith.’… Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and there would be strife on account of the office of the episcopate. For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect fore-knowledge of this, they appointed those [ministers] already mentioned, and afterwards gave instructions, that when these should fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry…For our sin will not be small, if we eject from the episcopate those who have blamelessly and holily fulfilled its duties.” Pope Clement, Epistle to Corinthians, 42, 44 (A.D. 98).

Clement is mentioned as coworker with Paul in Scripture as is Linus mentioned , these are the Apostolic successors.

Titus is told to “teach and reprove with all Authority “

Timothy is told.

“For this reason, I am reminding you to fan into flames the gift of God that is within you through the laying on of my hands.”

The laying of hands is the passing on of Apostolic Authority to approved and tested men.

Paul trained Timothy for pastoral service, he was believed to be the pastor the Ephesus Church.

Titus was a delegate for the apostle Paul, arranging and carrying out orders from Paul for the churches.

You might think you have see apostolic succession, but you don't see it in Scripture.

 

[Charlie24]

Paul trained Timothy for pastoral service, he was believed to be the pastor the Ephesus Church.

Titus was a delegate for the apostle Paul, arranging and carrying out orders from Paul for the churches.

You might think you have see apostolic succession, but you don't see it in Scripture.

This junk came from the RCC claiming Peter was was the first Pope.

There's no proof of any kind in Scripture that Peter was ever in Rome.

 

[Cathode]

When I get to New Jerusalem, I'm going to look at the names on those stones, and I'll also look for the names of the Popes.

If I see the names of the Popes in the foundation of New Jerusalem, I'll find you and apologize, but until then.......

Paul trained Timothy for pastoral service, he was believed to be the pastor the Ephesus Church.

Titus was a delegate for the apostle Paul, arranging and carrying out orders from Paul for the churches.

You might think you have see apostolic succession, but you don't see it in Scripture.

Titus is told he has “all Authority” , he is not just a delegate parroting something.

How much Authority did Titus have, “ All Authority “.

Timothy was a bishop appointed by Paul, and Paul tells him to be careful who he appoints through the laying on of hands.
Authority is passed on with the laying of hands, so it is only given to tested and approved men.

We see clear Apostolic succession in Scripture, but it is massively testified also in all the Early Christians writings.

“We are not to credit these men, nor go out from the first and the ecclesiastical tradition; nor to believe otherwise than as the churches of God have by succession transmitted to us.” Origen, Commentary on Matthew (post A.D. 244).

“Our Lord, whose precepts and admonitions we ought to observe, describing the honour of a bishop and the order of His Church, speaks in the Gospel, and says to Peter: ‘I say unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock will I build my Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.’ Thence, through the changes of times and successions, the ordering of bishops and the plan of the Church flow onwards; so that the Church is founded upon the bishops, and every act of the Church is controlled by these same rulers.” Cyprian, To the Lapsed, 1 (A.D. 250).

“Therefore the power of remitting sins was given to the apostles, and to the churches which they, sent by Christ, established, and to the bishops who succeeded to them by vicarious ordination.” Firmilian, To Cyprian, Epistle 75[74]:16 (A.D. 256).

I could quote thousands of them.

 

[Charlie24]

Titus is told he has “all Authority” , he is not just a delegate parroting something.

How much Authority did Titus have, “ All Authority “.

Timothy was a bishop appointed by Paul, and Paul tells him to be careful who he appoints through the laying on of hands.
Authority is passed on with the laying of hands, so it is only given to tested and approved men.

We see clear Apostolic succession in Scripture, but it is massively testified also in all the Early Christians writings.

“We are not to credit these men, nor go out from the first and the ecclesiastical tradition; nor to believe otherwise than as the churches of God have by succession transmitted to us.” Origen, Commentary on Matthew (post A.D. 244).

“Our Lord, whose precepts and admonitions we ought to observe, describing the honour of a bishop and the order of His Church, speaks in the Gospel, and says to Peter: ‘I say unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock will I build my Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.’ Thence, through the changes of times and successions, the ordering of bishops and the plan of the Church flow onwards; so that the Church is founded upon the bishops, and every act of the Church is controlled by these same rulers.” Cyprian, To the Lapsed, 1 (A.D. 250).

“Therefore the power of remitting sins was given to the apostles, and to the churches which they, sent by Christ, established, and to the bishops who succeeded to them by vicarious ordination.” Firmilian, To Cyprian, Epistle 75[74]:16 (A.D. 256).

I could quote thousands of them.

Third attempt to post!

Paul wrote the letter to Titus just as he did to Timothy, giving them instructions.

Paul told him to rebuke with all authority. Rebuke what?

Anything that was not sound doctrine, and not in the order of the Church.

 

[Charlie24]

Third attempt to post!

Paul wrote the letter to Titus just as he did to Timothy, giving them instructions.

Paul told him to rebuke with all authority. Rebuke what?

Anything that was not sound doctrine, and not in the order of the Church.

You can beat around the bushes all night with apostolic succession, but you're not going to find it in Scripture.

 

[David Lamb]

We see Apostolic succession in Scripture with the appointment of Elders and Overseers, through the laying on of hands.

Timothy and Titus are blaring examples, the elders Paul called to gather are also blaring examples.

Not only do we see these Scriptural examples, the Early Christians write constantly about the Apostolic succession, the Fathers themselves are of the Apostolic succession, as Bishops, tracing their lineage back to the Apostles through the laying on of hands.

“And thus preaching through countries and cities, they appointed the first-fruits [of their labours], having first proved them by the Spirit, to be bishops and deacons of those who should afterwards believe. Nor was this any new thing, since indeed many ages before it was written concerning bishops and deacons. For thus saith the Scripture a certain place, ‘I will appoint their bishops s in righteousness, and their deacons in faith.’… Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and there would be strife on account of the office of the episcopate. For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect fore-knowledge of this, they appointed those [ministers] already mentioned, and afterwards gave instructions, that when these should fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry…For our sin will not be small, if we eject from the episcopate those who have blamelessly and holily fulfilled its duties.” Pope Clement, Epistle to Corinthians, 42, 44 (A.D. 98).

Clement is mentioned as coworker with Paul in Scripture as is Linus mentioned , these are the Apostolic successors.

Titus is told to “teach and reprove with all Authority “

Timothy is told.

“For this reason, I am reminding you to fan into flames the gift of God that is within you through the laying on of my hands.”

The laying of hands is the passing on of Apostolic Authority to approved and tested men.

But the elders/overseers didn't become apostles.