Continued - Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement.

[Agent47]

The Palestinian rocket attacks, bus bombings, and ambushes of Jewish families, the bombing of Jewish restaurants, and the call for more terrorism by Imams in mosques that sit on Israeli soil are all examples of Isalmic terror being perpetrated upon Israel in and from the West Bank and Gaza. You also have the terror tunnels meant to bring Hamas terrorists into close proximity to Israeli targets. To say there is no terror in the West Bank and Gaza amounts to intellectual suicide.


The UN is owned by Islam. It is not the same international body that existed when Roosevelt created it. Today, the UN is made up of Islamic countries, most of whom support terrorism against Israel and much of the international community sympathizes with the Islamic hatred of Israel.

So, it is not surprising given how evil and satanic that Islam is, that it labels any and all defensive countermeasures Israel employs as "war crimes" or "crimes against humanity." This in spite of the fact that Israel's humanitarian record is far better than most countries of the Islamic world.

In Islam, terrorism is righteous and praiseworthy and any attempt to resist or thwart it, to retaliate against it is a crime.

So I don't put any stock in what the UN says about Israel. The UN has more resolutions against Israel than any other nation and that reflects the inherent problem with Islam and Islamic countries, most if not all, which support the destruction of Israel. The Islamic definition of a war crime is any attempt to defend oneself from Islamic terrorism.

There are very few if any resolutions against Palestinian/Islamic terrorism against Israel. In fact, as long as the target is Israel, actions that are normally considered "terrorism" are not considered terrorist attacks at all.

Islam is a plague on the world that needs to be eradicated. And one day when the Lord returns, Islam will be destroyed and may God speed that day, Alleluia.

Israel has killed more children and women in Gaza and has been severally indicted of war crimes. That’s terrorism right there. Of course Arabs are children of a lesser God to racists so I understand this selective amnesia

 

[John of Japan]

In regards to the claim that there is no Islamic terrorism against Israel, I have a friend who operates a ministry feeding hungry Israeli children: www.israeltodayministries.org. (It is not widely known that there are many poor immigrants and others in Israel.) He has been to Israel many times, and gives first hand accounts of the rockets from the Islamists which often fall daily on the border settlements of Israel. Those Israelis must be on constant readiness to flee to shelters at any time of the day. Many Israeli children are terribly traumatized by this, and some shake and weep uncontrollably when the rockets come.

I do not support everything the secular Israeli state does, and do not believe it is a complete fulfillment of prophecy. Anyone who thinks there is not Islamic terrorism against Israel is mistaken, perhaps willfully. "Judge righteous judgment."

 

[Agent47]

In regards to the claim that there is no Islamic terrorism against Israel, I have a friend who operates a ministry feeding hungry Israeli children: www.israeltodayministries.org. (It is not widely known that there are many poor immigrants and others in Israel.) He has been to Israel many times, and gives first hand accounts of the rockets from the Islamists which often fall daily on the border settlements of Israel. Those Israelis must be on constant readiness to flee to shelters at any time of the day. Many Israeli children are terribly traumatized by this, and some shake and weep uncontrollably when the rockets come.

I do not support everything the secular Israeli state does, and do not believe it is a complete fulfillment of prophecy. Anyone who thinks there is not Islamic terrorism against Israel is mistaken, perhaps willfully. "Judge righteous judgment."

If anyone can deny Israeli terrorism or war crimes against Gazans then I have no problem denying existence of Islamic terrorism.

I really wonder how Christian Arabs in Gaza feel about their faith seeing they share it with some who cheer their massacre.

 

[GoodTidings]

Bla bla

You have the UNSCOP report showing you land ownership between Arabs and Jews in Palestine. Jews bought or owned 7% by end of 1947. Arabs owned 85%. Why are you bleating lies? I thought this is a ‘christian’ Board

“Conferred” means giving, which means UN gave Zionists ‘statehood’,or state of being a State. So what’s that if not making Israel?

Your accounting isn't quite accurate. There is more to the story than you know.

In 1922, the British government was tasked with facilitating the establishment of a home for the Jewish people in Palestine. The British government, under heavy influence from the Arab nations, in whom the British held oil interests, re-interpreted the mandate to mean that not all of Palestine would be a home for the Jews. The British government gave all of Palestine east of the Jordan river, their allies, the Husseinis who were allies of Hitler.

The remaining 25% would house the Jewish nation, but that was subsequently split and about 13% of the remaining amount became the state of Israel. The West Bank and Gaza are the last remaining parts of the Mandate that have not become part of any sovereign entity.

The Jews, by 1947 had been through the Holocaust, and the British government had severely restricted Jewish immigration to the Holy Land. Many Jews tried to escape Hitler by going to what was called "Palestine" at the time, but the British would not allow it, and this resulted in far higher Jewish casualty rates in the Holocaust.

The Arabs didn't get less land than the Jews. They got more. The Arabs in the region of Palestine first received 75% of Palestine in addition to the 13% given to them for a Palestinian state. So call in all, the Arabs received 88% of Palestine and the Jews got 13% of Palestine.

Conferred doesn't mean "make." They recognized Israel's right as a sovereign nation and as a result Israel declared their nationhood on May 14, 1948. They did not single handedly make Israel a nation, but they recognized it as such, nonetheless. UN Res. 181 is one of four reasons that Israel is a legitimate nation.

 

[GoodTidings]

If anyone can deny Israeli terrorism or war crimes against Gazans then I have no problem denying existence of Islamic terrorism.

I really wonder how Christian Arabs in Gaza feel about their faith seeing they share it with some who cheer their massacre.

Actually, it is the Christian Arabs in Gaza who are brutalized by the Arab terrorists like Hamas. The PLO drove Christians from their homes in Bethlehem. Christians have been under severe persecution from the Muslims and have been on the receiving end of terrorism from the Muslims, not Israel.

 

[Agent47]

Your accounting isn't quite accurate. There is more to the story than you know.

In 1922, the British government was tasked with facilitating the establishment of a home for the Jewish people in Palestine. The British government, under heavy influence from the Arab nations, in whom the British held oil interests, re-interpreted the mandate to mean that not all of Palestine would be a home for the Jews. The British government gave all of Palestine east of the Jordan river, their allies, the Husseinis who were allies of Hitler.

The remaining 25% would house the Jewish nation, but that was subsequently split and about 13% of the remaining amount became the state of Israel. The West Bank and Gaza are the last remaining parts of the Mandate that have not become part of any sovereign entity.

The Jews, by 1947 had been through the Holocaust, and the British government had severely restricted Jewish immigration to the Holy Land. Many Jews tried to escape Hitler by going to what was called "Palestine" at the time, but the British would not allow it, and this resulted in far higher Jewish casualty rates in the Holocaust.

The Arabs didn't get less land than the Jews. They got more. The Arabs in the region of Palestine first received 75% of Palestine in addition to the 13% given to them for a Palestinian state. So call in all, the Arabs received 88% of Palestine and the Jews got 13% of Palestine.

Conferred doesn't mean "make." They recognized Israel's right as a sovereign nation and as a result Israel declared their nationhood on May 14, 1948. They did not single handedly make Israel a nation, but they recognized it as such, nonetheless. UN Res. 181 is one of four reasons that Israel is a legitimate nation.

Rubbish.

Conferring means giving. Simple

Britain promised Jews a state in exchange for support during the war. They also promised the same to Arabs. Jews wanted an ethnically pure state in an area that had Arabs who wanted a state over the same place. The two place is known as Palestine. and unable to keep their promise, they handed this to UN which formed UNSCOP whose report you have never read until I shared them here. Note, of all British colonies/Mandate, it is only Palestine that was denied self determination.

UNSCOP recommended two states and they drew the maps I shared. It was upon the Jews and Arabs to accept the recommendations as right to self determination is held by people and not UN.

Israel unilateral declared its own state and trashed USCOP recommendations. Arabs rejected this unilateral declaration hence the war.

Israel has no right to exist. But it did. Explains why they experience all this hostility. Sodom and Egypt will never know peace for the 1948 violent fraud. They may buy and develop all weapon th they know but they will never know peace. No amount of praying can heal them.

 

[GoodTidings]

Israel has killed more children and women in Gaza and has been severally indicted of war crimes. That’s terrorism right there. Of course Arabs are children of a lesser God to racists so I understand this selective amnesia

The reason those children died in Gaza is because Hamas purposefully uses them as human shields. They attack Israel and when Israel responds, children and other helpless people are forced by Hamas to stand by or are tied to military targets. Hamas uses innocent noncombatants as cannon fodder.

Israel does what it can to minimize the death of innocents, but Hamas does all it can to maximize the deaths of innocents, denies them medical care in order to ramp up the causality and fatality rates.

The direct cause for so many deaths is Hamas and their cruel use of their own people as human shields.

The war crimes are being committed by Hamas and other terrorist groups who also use civilians as human shields.

 

[Agent47]

Actually, it is the Christian Arabs in Gaza who are brutalized by the Arab terrorists like Hamas. The PLO drove Christians from their homes in Bethlehem. Christians have been under severe persecution from the Muslims and have been on the receiving end of terrorism from the Muslims, not Israel.

Christian & Muslim Arabs and Jews all lived together in harmony in Palestine until the Zionism philosophy caught up with the holy land. Zionism is worse than racism because it has a veneer of religion to it

 

[GoodTidings]

Rubbish.

Conferring means giving. Simple

I am not going to get into a parsing war with you.

Britain promised Jews a state in exchange for support during the war.

Britain betrayed the Jews and gave most of Palestine to the Arabs.

Jews wanted an ethnically pure state in an area that had Arabs who wanted a state over the same place. The two place is known as Palestine.

That is a falsehood.

Israel unilateral declared its own state and trashed USCOP recommendations. Arabs rejected this unilateral declaration hence the war. That is not true. And the Arabs rejected Res. 181.

Israel has no right to exist.

Do you support the Arab aspiration to destroy Israel?

 

[GoodTidings]

Christian & Muslim Arabs and Jews all lived together in harmony in Palestine until the Zionism philosophy caught up with the holy land. Zionism is worse than racism because it has a veneer of religion to it

Zionism has no religious veneer. Zionism is a secular concept and was brought into existence by non-religious Jews.

I sincerely desire to trust faceless ignoramuses who have never read Resolution 181 but I can’t. Sorry but I go with United Nations investigators:
UN Independent Commission of Inquiry on Protests in Gaza Presents its Findings - Press Release - Question of Palestine

And I don't trust terrorist organizations like the UN.

 

[Agent47]

Zionism has no religious veneer. Zionism is a secular concept and was brought into existence by non-religious Jews.

And I don't trust terrorist organizations like the UN.

The basis for Zionism is religion and nothing else.

I know you only trust Fox News and Trump

Seriously, I want Iran to get that nuclear weapon. Nuclear weapons are the only way to earn and keep respect. North Korea has survived this far only because of nuclear weapons. Russia would have been annihilated long before you were born but for their nuclear weapons. Should Iran get that bomb, plus newer military gear from Russia, they won’t have to beg Zionists to be respected.
Imagine Houthis fired a missile all the way from Yemen to Riyadh. If they get a few more from Iran, then Saudis will let them be.

 

[GoodTidings]

The basis for Zionism is religion and nothing else.

No, it is not. Most of the Zionists were not religious at all. Israel was found by Atheists and Agnostics, not by religious Jews. Herschel, who founded Zionism was not religious at all.

No, I simply do not trust anything the UN says because it is run by the Muslims, who are not trustworthy people, but are liars and who worship a demon.

Seriously, I want Iran to get that nuclear weapon. Nuclear weapons are the only way to earn and keep respect. North Korea has survived this far only because of nuclear weapons. Russia would have been annihilated long before you were born but for their nuclear weapons. Should Iran get that bomb, plus newer military gear from Russia, they won’t have to beg Zionists to be respected.

I can imagine you are hoping Iran uses their nuke on Israel. That's your real hope.

 

[Agent47]

Britain betrayed the Jews and gave most of Palestine to the Arabs.

You’d make a pathetic amateur comedian. All Arab colonies of Britain had majority Arabs. Palestine was no different. Zionists had to spread Zionism propaganda to encourage emigration to Palestine to justify their claims. And even after all that plus land buying, they only made 30% of a Palestine owning 7% land. Britain never interfered with land ownership in Palestine, they let Jews and Arabs be. So there was no Britain giving land to Arabs.

 

[Agent47]

No, it is not. Most of the Zionists were not religious at all. Israel was found by Atheists and Agnostics, not by religious Jews. Herschel, who founded Zionism was not religious at all.

No, I simply do not trust anything the UN says because it is run by the Muslims, who are not trustworthy people, but are liars and who worship a demon.


I can imagine you are hoping Iran uses their nuke on Israel. That's your real hope.

Imperialism responds to nothing but nuclear weapon. I want Iran to chart their own course just like America is doing. All humans should be free to do that,right?

 

[GoodTidings]

You’d make a pathetic amateur comedian. All Arab colonies of Britain had majority Arabs. Palestine was no different. Zionists had to spread Zionism propaganda to encourage emigration to Palestine to justify their claims. And even after all that plus land buying, they only made 30% of a Palestine owning 7% land. Britain never interfered with land ownership in Palestine, they let Jews and Arabs be. So there was no Britain giving land to Arabs.

That's what I mean when I talk about history revisionism.

 

[Revmitchell]

Imperialism responds to nothing but nuclear weapon. I want Iran to chart their own course just like America is doing. All humans should be free to do that,right?

unless they are a terrorist state

 

[GoodTidings]

Imperialism responds to nothing but nuclear weapon. I want Iran to chart their own course just like America is doing. All humans should be free to do that,right?

What Imperialism?

Iran's course is terrorism and destruction. Iran should not be allowed to chart that course.

Are you a Muslim?

 

[Agent47]

unless they are a terrorist state

One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. To Iraqis US is a terrorist state

 

[John of Japan]

If anyone can deny Israeli terrorism or war crimes against Gazans then I have no problem denying existence of Islamic terrorism.

Surely we should all be on a search for the truth, even in this difficult subject. You appear to be calling my friend a liar. That is not productive.

 

[Agent47]

What Imperialism?

Iran's course is terrorism and destruction. Iran should not be allowed to chart that course.

Are you a Muslim?

Look for a good dictionary to understand these vocabularies

Why would you think I’m a Muslim?