CORONAVIRUS Cure?

[Gold Dragon]

Turns out the drug is extremely safe with virtually no serious complications after decades of use.

Yes there are many patients who use it for long period of time without any issues.

Ignore my advice if you want. But if anyone out there reads this and is thinking of starting hydrocychloroquine on your own for Covid19, please see a doctor and get an ECG done first.

Ventricular Arrhythmia Risk Due to Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin Treatment For COVID-19 - American College of Cardiology

 

[Calminian]

Yes there are many patients who use it for long period of time without any issues.

Ignore my advice if you want. But if anyone out there reads this and is thinking of starting hydrocychloroquine on your own for Covid19, please see a doctor and get an ECG done first.

Ventricular Arrhythmia Risk Due to Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin Treatment For COVID-19 - American College of Cardiology

Uh, yeah, way to suggest people take it on their own with out a doctor. You're even more reckless then the fake news media. You really should stop talking.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Although, most of your conversation is reasonable your politically based dig on the president is not a part of that reasonableness. Trump is not giving medical advice, he is giving common sense advice and supporting the right to try it when all other hope seem dim and others are twisting this to make a political narrative that he is giving medical advice even though Trump has repeated said it is not medical advice and that with their doctors the decision should be made.

The Left denies and attacks the promising potential of a drug because of who promotes it and the Right denies our best hope by slowing down the virus with social distancing because they fear some on the Left might try to take advantage of it after ruining the economy. Both sides can stuff their hyper political insanity as far as I’m concerned, this is too serious for these divisive political games.

We must be diligent to slow the spread until we can find the cure, and at a last resort if anyone wants to put their hope in HCQ and wants their doctor to prescribe HCQ they should have that right and that should be between them and their doctor. Period.

I have no problem with trump being enthusiastic about HCQ. I also applaud letting doctors use it on patients based on clinical judgement with as few restrictions as possible.

And if he said that he is excited about HCQ and encouraged people to see their doctor about whether it is suitable for them, that would be great advice. He is going beyond that with his words and people are going to misinterpret them.

 

[Calminian]

I have no problem with trump being enthusiastic about HCQ. I also applaud letting doctors use it on patients based on clinical judgement with as few restrictions as possible.

And if he said that he is excited about HCQ and encouraged people to see their doctor about whether it is suitable for them, that would be great advice. He is going beyond that with his words and people are going to misinterpret them.

Actually, the only one talking about taking it without a doctor is you. I just hope no one believers you that that's even an option. It's reckless nonsense that shouldn't be mentioned.

 

[Calminian]

Laura Ingraham also blowing this phony story out of the water regarding the dangers of HCQ side effects. Just amazing the disinformation campaign that's being waged by the MSM and our resident "expert."

Start watching at 23:30:

 

[Benjamin]

American Pastor 'Destroys' Coronavirus With 'Wind Of God'

American Pastor 'Destroys' Coronavirus With 'Wind Of God'

 

[Benjamin]

Doctors are doing that and using it with some positive results. However if we have the opportunity to gather more robust evidence than anecdotal evidence, we should.

You have a lot of time to be online for a doctor, especially during these times, may I ask if you are retired or what is your story?

 

[Gold Dragon]

You have a lot of time to be online for a doctor, especially during these times, may I ask if you are retired or what is your story?

1. Yes I am spending too much time here.

2. the NBA is shut down which normally takes up my free time.

3. Even with telehealth where we are doing most of our consults over the phone/internet, folks across the country are not seeing their doctors. Our health minister made an appeal this week for the public to see their doctors out of concern folks are not getting the medical help they need because they are afraid of getting coronavirus. I also think it is because people are isolating themselves and not getting sick or hurt. So work has been slow if you are not in the hospitals.

 

[Scott Downey]

"This Man is My Father" - Dr. Marc Siegel Defends the Hydroxychloroquine Treatment for Coronavirus with the Most Moving Story Imaginable (VIDEO)

Dr Siegal's 96 yr old dad got sick and then got better next day using Chloroquine and an antibiotic.
It is important to get this drug combo earlier in the infection cycle, seriously as it can stop the person from getting pneumonia which is what kills you.

 

[Gold Dragon]

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2007016

A well written NEJM published paper about Remdesivir use in severe covid19 cases. The caveats are that it is not a randomized control trial with no control group, is a fairly small study, there were some serious adverse events in some patients and was sponsored by its manufacturer. They acknowledge these weaknesses and the need for more definitive results from trials that are currently underway globally.

The findings
61 patients around the world, all with severe covid19 needing breathing support except 2, 30 on ventilators and 4 on ECMO (heart-lung bypass). 8 patients were excluded from results (this is a common thing in studies, usually because the patient is lost to follow up meaning they stopped communicating with the researchers).

36 of the remaining 53 improved with 17 extubated, 3 of the 4 off ECMO and 25 discharged. 7 died, only one patient that was not previously intubated at the start and they were also the only nonintubated patient that was later intubated.

Some promising results that will hopefully get the FDA to open up approval to wider use. And the big control studies with remdesivir are already under way since anecdotally it has been one of the more promising treatment options, particularly in severe disease.

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[Scott Downey]

The common drug Ivermectin needs to have human trials. In Vitro Ivermectin destroys the virus in 48 hours, a 5000 fold reduction in viral numbers.

Ivermectin is already approved for human use, so right now it would be off label emergency use.

If I was dying of covid-19, I would want things like Chloroquine, Remdesivir, Ivermectin trialed on me.

The right to try law was passed in 2018, so you have the right to use drugs when there is no approved treatment.
Right to Try

 

[Wingman68]

Somehow I don’t think the dems have the answer......

 

[Benjamin]

If I was dying of covid-19, I would want things like Chloroquine, Remdesivir, Ivermectin trialed on me.

If I had my choice I would go for the plasma first, hoping for a boost, and then the HCQ with zinc but I'm really hoping for some solid - test proven positive therapeutics to come out soon. Looking at the numbers I'm afraid that the prediction of 60,000 deaths may be overly optimistic. We need a quality therapeutic and we need to run with it!

 

[Calminian]

If I had my choice I would go for the plasma first, hoping for a boost, and then the HCQ with zinc but I'm really hoping for some solid - test proven positive therapeutics to come out soon. Looking at the numbers I'm afraid that the prediction of 60,000 deaths may be overly optimistic. We need a quality therapeutic and we need to run with it!

I'm actually wary of the vaccine. If they rush it, it could potentially be dangerous. Seems there are much better options coming around the pike.

 

[Scott Downey]

Sad, but the FDA - CDC does not want doctors using Chloroquine on patients until they are almost dead.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/11/doctors-pols-urge-use-of-miracle-coronavirus-drug-cocktail/

But they are getting pressured to change this. But it is too little too late for those who died. Even though they know it helps, in an interview with CDC head on CNN, he was asked would he advise sick patients to ask for Chloroquine, and that guy smirkly stated with a wry smile no, he would wait for the science. Of course he is not sick and dying either.

Although hydroxychloroquine is used to treat malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, the Federal Drug Administration has only approved it for treatment of COVID-19 in advanced cases of the virus and by the time patients have to rely on ventilators. Pharmacists in New York state are only allowed to fill prescriptions for the FDA-approved uses of the drug.

IMO, they are doing what they can to make it a failure to the at large public audience.

 

[Benjamin]

Sad, but the FDA - CDC does not want doctors using Chloroquine on patients until they are almost dead.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/11/doctors-pols-urge-use-of-miracle-coronavirus-drug-cocktail/

But they are getting pressured to change this. But it is too little too late for those who died. Even though they know it helps, in an interview with CDC head on CNN, he was asked would he advise sick patients to ask for Chloroquine, and that guy smirkly stated with a wry smile no, he would wait for the science. Of course he is not sick and dying either.

Although hydroxychloroquine is used to treat malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, the Federal Drug Administration has only approved it for treatment of COVID-19 in advanced cases of the virus and by the time patients have to rely on ventilators. Pharmacists in New York state are only allowed to fill prescriptions for the FDA-approved uses of the drug.

IMO, they are doing what they can to make it a failure to the at large public audience.

That is a very misleading article and void of facts. The FDA has approved the drug for off-label use and it is only a few governors that have issued executive orders for it to only be used as a last resort and have attempted to get in-between a doctor and a patients right to try.

 

[Scott Downey]

EXCLUSIVE: South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem on Monday announced a statewide clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine for the possible treatment of COVID-19, making her state the first in the country to institute a program exploring the potential effectiveness of the drug in treating and preventing coronavirus.

South Dakota implements statewide hydroxychloroquine clinical trial for potential coronavirus treatment
Only now after all this time discussing Chloroquine, her state is the first that is going to do a study, something seems wrong with that if true.

 

[Benjamin]

Here in Phoenix a man who was put on a ventilator but going down fast was then transferred to John C Lincoln medical center were he was put on a rare out of the box ECMO treatment where this machine takes out your blood and pumps it full of oxygen and puts it back into the body. It took him 10 days to defeat the virus but he stayed alive and was just released form the hospital. He is the first COVID-19 patient to have been put on this in AZ and one of the first in the world. There are other ECMO treatment centers around AZ and the country and the doctors are training others in their success.

 

[Wingman68]

I'm actually wary of the vaccine. If they rush it, it could potentially be dangerous. Seems there are much better options coming around the pike.

Don’t worry, sarc, they are probably using it already doing their ‘clinical’ trials on the poor & unsuspecting in some hidden corner of the world, because those lives are only valuable for the betterment of the power hungry who would like to control the world. Gates wants mandatory vaccines for the world, with tracking capability & is ready to be the vaccine God.
I wouldn’t take his vaccine.

Gates’ Globalist Vaccine Agenda: A Win-Win for Pharma and Mandatory Vaccination • Children's Health Defense

 

[Salty]

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