CORONAVIRUS Cure?

[HankD]

once it was "snake oil"

We elected a snake-oil salesman as President of the United States, and by God, he's going to peddle some snake oil.

Trump Pushes Hydroxychloroquine as Coronavirus Cure Despite Limited Evidence

 

[Wingman68]

Voat - Have your say

This accompanying article is a must read. NOW. We are being taken down the leftists primrose path, & people must die to make their end game a reality. Gates is totally exposed now, by his own greed for power over the world. Now that people are terrified, & succumbing they, the globalist elites, see their end game coming ever closer. Gates says we must ALL have digital ability to prove our vaccination status before anyone can travel anywhere. Anywhere? The grocery? This shows you there are no lengths that they will not go to........to rule, & they want the world. They would destroy it & us in the process if that’s what it takes. Now come the commercials about Trump having all that blood on his hands. Really? Susan Rice stepping out yesterday with those words. You will hear them often going forward. Evil people. Totally evil. Attention Required!

 

[Wingman68]

Who has been touting HCQ from the get? Who really has blood on their hands?

HARD HITTING: Michigan Governor Spends Interview On The Coronavirus Discussing Favorite Snack Foods With Joe Biden
Here is Biden & my half-whit governor who tried to withhold HCQ from the people of our state. She could be in line to be your president. She & Biden pull an Obama & instead of talking about the issues, & boy are there issues, they talk about their favorite snacks. Always important in a lockdown.

 

[Wingman68]

Did Bill Gates Just Reveal the Reason Behind the Lock-Downs?

What a guy.

 

[Scott Downey]

Who has been touting HCQ from the get? Who really has blood on their hands?

HARD HITTING: Michigan Governor Spends Interview On The Coronavirus Discussing Favorite Snack Foods With Joe Biden
Here is Biden & my half-whit governor who tried to withhold HCQ from the people of our state. She could be in line to be your president. She & Biden pull an Obama & instead of talking about the issues, & boy are there issues, they talk about their favorite snacks. Always important in a lockdown.

That plastic and vacuous woman as POTUS, the idea makes me nauseous. Anyone Biden chooses is more likely to be POTUS odds wise than Trump's VP choice. Of course self destructive skin slashing democrats will be happy to see her as POTUS as they are as vacuous as she.

What is a vacuous person?
adjective. The definition of vacuous is empty or not intelligent. An example of vacuous is a ditzy person who has no smart or useful ideas.

 

[HankD]

once it was "snake oil"

Trump Pushes Hydroxychloroquine as Coronavirus Cure Despite Limited Evidence

OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN TRUMP IS PROVEN CORRECT.

Doesn't matter the globalists LEADERSHIP with the worst death statistics are willing to sacrifice thousands of souls on the Wuhan viral altar so long as they can spew their hate venom at Trump and those who approve of his policies.
there is NEVER NEVER NEVER an apology, NEVER.

PERSONALLY I am sick of Cuomo's platitudes (who blocks anti-malarial drugs which could save thousands of lives).
Why does Fox news give him so much time?

is it just me or am the only one who suspects that the globalist are hiding their happiness when there is bad news concerning the virus. again am i the only one who sees that they want the economy and the nation's health to tank through the summer and even affect the election? They seem gleeful over bad news! ya must be me.

AMERICA/New York VOTE THESE @#$% OUT OF OFFICE!

 

[Wingman68]

India now seems convinced HChloroquine works. If it does, hard to blame them for this move. Country first. I do believe, however, Trump's working a deal.


India Bans All Exports of “Game-Changer” Hydroxycholoroquine to Treat Coronavirus — First Touted by President Trump

Coronavirus: India reverses ban on export of anti-malaria drug believed to be effective in treating Covid-19
And now, thanks to Trump, I may get my order.

 

[Calminian]

Boy, this is the getting interesting. Here we have a situation where a democrat lawmaker heard the good news about HCQ and actually had to beg and fight for it in Michigan.

This is an example of how dangerous Trump derangement syndrome can be, especially when people in power like Gov. Whimer get it.


Dem Lawmaker Who Credited Trump For Saving Her Life Says She Had to Beg For Hydroxychloroquine After Michigan Gov Barred the Drug (VIDEO)

Karen Whitsett (D-Detroit) was diagnosed with Coronavirus and said she began to feel relief from her symptoms less than two hours after taking the anti-malaria drugs touted by President Trump.

Whitsett not only gave President Trump credit for saving her life, she thanked him.

The Democrat lawmaker said she would never have thought to take hydroxychloroquine if she hadn’t heard President Trump talking about it during his daily briefings.

Whitsett told Fox News host Laura Ingraham Monday night that she had to beg for hydroxychloroquine because her tyrannical governor barred the drug with an order!

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer previously threatened all doctors and pharmacists who prescribed or dispensed hydroxychloroquine for Coronavirus patients.

Whitmer eventually reversed course, but Rep. Whitsett said she was terrified because by the time she needed the anti-malaria drug, it had just been banned in her state.

“I did have a difficult time even that day of obtaining the medication because of an order that was put down in my state,” Whitsett said. “You can imagine how terrified I was that I had to really beg and plead and go through a whole lot to try and get the medication.”

Whitsett was probably able to convince a pharmacist to prescribe her the drug because of her status as a lawmaker. Imagine how things would have turned out if Whitsett was a peasant like the rest of us?​

 

[HankD]

a rare case for globalist democrats to eat crow.

 

[Calminian]

And once HCQ is confirmed effective I wonder where the narrative will go?

How did Trump know this would work? Was he colluding with the Russians who did secret studies?

There's just so many possible directions.

 

[Calminian]

Another interview doesn't go as planned. HCQ+Zinc seems to be the absolute cure we've been looking for and found. Those with TDS are fighting it, but losing.


Doctor Prescribing Hydroxychloroquine Says All of His “Very, Very Ill” Patients with Coronavirus Became Symptom Free within 8-12 Hours (VIDEO)

 

[Calminian]

One thing all these testimonies have in common seems to be zinc, which is taken in conjunction with the HCQ. The above doctor said the HCQ opens up the zinc channel, the zinc goes into the cell and prevents the virus from replicating.

Thus, maybe the real star in this is the zinc, with HCQ as its escort. Fascinating stuff.

 

[Use of Time]

Boy, this is the getting interesting. Here we have a situation where a democrat lawmaker heard the good news about HCQ and actually had to beg and fight for it in Michigan.

This is an example of how dangerous Trump derangement syndrome can be, especially when people in power like Gov. Whimer get it.


Dem Lawmaker Who Credited Trump For Saving Her Life Says She Had to Beg For Hydroxychloroquine After Michigan Gov Barred the Drug (VIDEO)

Karen Whitsett (D-Detroit) was diagnosed with Coronavirus and said she began to feel relief from her symptoms less than two hours after taking the anti-malaria drugs touted by President Trump.

Whitsett not only gave President Trump credit for saving her life, she thanked him.

The Democrat lawmaker said she would never have thought to take hydroxychloroquine if she hadn’t heard President Trump talking about it during his daily briefings.

Whitsett told Fox News host Laura Ingraham Monday night that she had to beg for hydroxychloroquine because her tyrannical governor barred the drug with an order!

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer previously threatened all doctors and pharmacists who prescribed or dispensed hydroxychloroquine for Coronavirus patients.

Whitmer eventually reversed course, but Rep. Whitsett said she was terrified because by the time she needed the anti-malaria drug, it had just been banned in her state.

“I did have a difficult time even that day of obtaining the medication because of an order that was put down in my state,” Whitsett said. “You can imagine how terrified I was that I had to really beg and plead and go through a whole lot to try and get the medication.”

Whitsett was probably able to convince a pharmacist to prescribe her the drug because of her status as a lawmaker. Imagine how things would have turned out if Whitsett was a peasant like the rest of us?​

You would think Trump crafted the medicine in his own lab according to his.

 

[HankD]

And once HCQ is confirmed effective I wonder where the narrative will go?

How did Trump know this would work? Was he colluding with the Russians who did secret studies?

There's just so many possible directions.

he was in collusion with president Xi.

 

[HankD]

You would think Trump crafted the medicine in his own lab according to his.

no, he SECRETLY owns the company which produces HCQ IN COLLUSION WITH Xi Jinping.

 

[Calminian]

no, he SECRETLY owns the company which produces HCQ IN COLLUSION WITH Xi Jinping.

Somehow we have to get Putin in there. It's just not a good conspiracy without him.

 

[HankD]

Somehow we have to get Putin in there. It's just not a good conspiracy without him.

OH, my bad, i forgot to mention him.

 

[Gold Dragon]

I want to keep saying that my hope is that HCQ is an effective option and it is encouraging that there are positive cases of its use. But unlike Trump’s cheerleaders, I cannot ignore the evidence against as well as the risks of Trump effectively giving dangerous medical advice in his press conferences.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/hydroxychloroquine-trump-coronavirus-drug

This is what Trump is saying:

“What do you have to lose? Take it,” the president said on Saturday as he boasted that the US had amassed 29m doses of the drug. On Sunday, facing questions from the press about his aggressive promotion of an unproven treatment, he argued against waiting for the completion of clinical trials. “In France, they had a very good test,” he said. “But we don’t have time to go and say, ‘Gee, let’s take a couple of years and test it out, and let’s go and test with the test tubes and the laboratories.’”

As for Trump, it does not appear likely that he will stop hyping the drug anytime soon, nor that he will take responsibility if anything goes wrong.

“What do you have to lose?” he said on Sunday. “They say, take it. I’m not looking at it one way or the other … If it does work, it would be a shame if we didn’t do it early. I’ve seen things that I sort of like, so what do I know?

“I’m not a doctor.”

Here is a major concern with the original French trial.

If you had only heard about this study from the Fox News assertion of a “100% cure rate”, you might assume that the four patients with poor clinical outcomes (the three ICU visits and one death) had been unlucky enough to be in the group that did not receive the “cure”.

And yet, those four patients, as well as the patient with nausea and the one who left the hospital early, were all part of the treatment group. They were excluded from the topline results of the study because of the way that the researchers chose to measure and report the results: strictly based on the measurable presence of viruses in nasal swabs taken each day of the study. Since the patients were in the ICU or dead, their samples could not be taken and they were left out of the final analysis. Based on the nasal swabs of just the 36 patients who completed the study, those who received the drug cleared the virus from their systems faster than those who did not.

This is how an experiment in which 15% of the treatment group and 0% of the control had poor clinical outcomes could end up being reported as showing a “100% cure rate”.

Here are two other relevant studies.

A group of French researchers published a refutation of the Raoult study in Médecine et Maladies Infectieuses on 30 March. The researchers, at Saint Louis hospital in France, followed the same regimen of hydroxychloroquine for 11 patients, and did not have similar results. “We found no evidence of a strong antiviral activity or clinical benefit of the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for the treatment of our hospitalized patients with severe Covid-19,” they wrote. “Ongoing randomized clinical trials with hydroxychloroquine should provide a definitive answer regarding the alleged efficacy of this combination and will assess its safety.”

But another study – this time a randomized controlled trial – out of Wuhan, China, has sparked hope since it was circulated ahead of publication on 31 March. The trial of 62 patients found that patients with mild cases of Covid-19 who were treated with hydroxychloroquine recovered faster than those who did not – and none of them progressed to “severe” illness. The study has not yet been peer-reviewed.

The authors of the study urged further research and large-scale clinical trials to better understand how the drug operates and how best to use it.

A note about the China study is that none of the control group went on to develop severe disease either.

There are a lot of well designed, large studies currently happening. I look forward to more positive news from them. In the meantime, yes doctors should still be using it selectively based on their clinical judgement.

 

[Calminian]

I want to keep saying that my hope is that HCQ is an effective option and it is encouraging that there are positive cases of its use. But unlike Trump’s cheerleaders, I cannot ignore the evidence against as well as the risks of Trump effectively giving dangerous medical advice in his press conferences......

Oh and this. Another epic fail by the "experts." Dr. Oz has been blowing this lid of this bit of fake news. Turns out the real HCQ experts that have been working with it for years and decades are laughing at the notion that HCQ is dangerous. He was on Hannity today with a message from them. They're telling him they're baffled at the stuff news anchors are saying. Turns out the drug is extremely safe with virtually no serious complications after decades of use.

One of them asked him to please set the record straight about this. It's really just you and other "experts" crying wolf. That's why we're all thankful you're not making any decisions. You're a reservoir of misinformation.

Here's the interview. Watch from the 11:45 mark. Then compare to the nonsense you're hearing on fake news (and from Gold Dragon).

 

[Benjamin]

But unlike Trump’s cheerleaders, I cannot ignore the evidence against as well as the risks of Trump effectively giving dangerous medical advice in his press conferences.

Although, most of your conversation is reasonable your politically based dig on the president is not a part of that reasonableness. Trump is not giving medical advice, he is giving common sense advice and supporting the right to try it when all other hope seem dim and others are twisting this to make a political narrative that he is giving medical advice even though Trump has repeated said it is not medical advice and that with their doctors the decision should be made.

The Left denies and attacks the promising potential of a drug because of who promotes it and the Right denies our best hope by slowing down the virus with social distancing because they fear some on the Left might try to take advantage of it after ruining the economy. Both sides can stuff their hyper political insanity as far as I’m concerned, this is too serious for these divisive political games.

We must be diligent to slow the spread until we can find the cure, and at a last resort if anyone wants to put their hope in HCQ and wants their doctor to prescribe HCQ they should have that right and that should be between them and their doctor. Period.