Covid Hysteria

[Reformed1689]

In 1918 1/3 of the world's population was infected with H1N1, a virus that is still around today. 50 million worldwide died and about 675,000 died in the United States. Yet Covid has only had a fraction of that overall impact. So why the hysteria? It's not about health. It is about control.

 

[Reformed]

Of course it is about control. The virus is real. That is not debatable. The response has been nothing less than a textbook class in fascism.

 

[Reformed]

While it may seen unconnected, the Biden administration's weaponizing the FBI against parents protesting at school board meetings is just another prong in the administration's attempt to control the citizenry. This is happening before our eyes and many otherwise intelligent people are being duped.

 

[SovereignGrace]

In 1918 1/3 of the world's population was infected with H1N1, a virus that is still around today. 50 million worldwide died and about 675,000 died in the United States. Yet Covid has only had a fraction of that overall impact. So why the hysteria? It's not about health. It is about control.

I thought two million Americans died of the Spanish flu?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

While it may seen unconnected, the Biden administration's weaponizing the FBI against parents protesting at school board meetings is just another prong in the administration's attempt to control the citizenry. This is happening before our eyes and many otherwise intelligent people are being duped.

This is sleazy and Godless…I never imagined someone could be worse than Trump… and just so everyone knows, I worked in the NYC construction industry for 30 years and was well aquatinted with the Trump family, father & son long before he ever got into politics… he screwed people left and right but he wasn’t a career politician back then, just an arrogant self promoting A-Hole.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Maybe old man Biden should visit the Charles Dickens book for his reclamation (before it’s too late).


“It is a fair, even-handed, noble adjustment of things, that while there is infection in disease and sorrow, there is nothing in the world so irresistibly contagious as laughter and good humour.”
― Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol


“You are fettered," said Scrooge, trembling. "Tell me why?"
"I wear the chain I forged in life," replied the Ghost. "I made it link by link, and yard by yard; I girded it on of my own free will, and of my own free will I wore it.”
― Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol

 

[JonC]

Of course it is about control. The virus is real. That is not debatable. The response has been nothing less than a textbook class in fascism.

You know....this sounds very familiar (pre-pandemic). I have heard the exact same argument about the MMR vaccine required for kids to go to school in a county.

The government (local) was forcing immunization.
The vaccine was developed from aborted fetuses.
The MMR immunization is dangerous.
The MMR vaccine does not prevent measles.
Parents who refuse the MMR vaccine are treated as second class citizens.
Requiring MMR immunizations is a violation of our freedom.
The MMR vaccine causes mental disorders.
People die from the MMR vaccine.
The "cure" is far worse than the disease.

Nothing new under the sun .

 

[Dave G]

I thought two million Americans died of the Spanish flu?

1918 Pandemic (H1N1 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

 

[Dave G]

So why the hysteria?

I've been asking that question for almost 18 months now.

Granted, it's serious ( to a certain segment of the population )...
But governors over-stepping existing state policies in the United States to shut down businesses and keep people from moving to reduce the spread of it?

To me that's odd, to say the least.

It's not about health

I find myself agreeing with you, and I'd like to add...

If it really was about public health, then every treatment that works ( or could possibly work ) would be openly embraced in order to help people to recover from it, and boost their immune systems in the face of it, IMO.
Instead, a program of sponsoring a very narrow band of treatment "options" is being adhered to;
and anything outside of that is being downplayed, if not altogether ridiculed.

I've been seeing this for months now, and I have to confess that it's the strangest reaction to an illness, serious or otherwise, that I've ever seen in my lifetime;

and by strange, I mean "alarming" from a personal freedoms point of view.

 

[Dave G]

The response has been nothing less than a textbook class in fascism.

It struck you that way as well?

I've studied differing forms of government for many years, and to me it's ironic that you just hit the same "nail on the head" as I have.
While I can't say that it's completely fascist in all of its principles... to me, it is very much like it in some respects.

The reaction to independent journalism and the free exchange of ideas and treatments that should be taking place in a situation like this, are not...
and the methods being used to suppress free speech and to emphasize a narrow agenda ( that brooks no disagreement with it the longer that this goes on ), is something that I find to be very interesting.

To me, it's as if someone is taking advantage of a situation to conduct a test in population control...
on a worldwide scale.

 

[just-want-peace]

"Never let a crisis go to waste" - nuff said!!!

 

[Reynolds]

In 1918 1/3 of the world's population was infected with H1N1, a virus that is still around today. 50 million worldwide died and about 675,000 died in the United States. Yet Covid has only had a fraction of that overall impact. So why the hysteria? It's not about health. It is about control.

The Dems are setting up The Communist takeover.

 

[Two Wings]

and just so everyone knows, I worked in the NYC construction industry for 30 years and was well aquatinted with the Trump family,

you have a unique perspective of Trump and I respect that.

It reminds me, though, of my company's former CEO ... Bob Crandall. He was no "friend" to labor, but you never were concerned about the company's ability to compete. That's been a serious concern ever since ... especially NOW.

So, while I can certainly accept Trump wasn't a "friend" to labor, I believe if we can separate the personal experience from what 2017-2021 was in governance and foreign relations ... we can see even mentioning the two in the same sentence for comparison is an errant venture.

Trump may well be Cyrus ... but Biden is at best Nimrod. Both in that office by the direction of I Am.

 

[Two Wings]

Nothing new under the sun

Hmm.

I'm pretty sure the MMR series weren't based upon re-writing cellular coding with mRNA. If we had a MLV (modified live virus ... like the MMR series) vaccine for the SARS Cov2 virus, there'd be much less resistance.

Never mind the actual threat of this virus/disease ... >99% even considering the relatively significant mortality rate of the elderly/with significant comorbidity.

God is supreme and He can inhibit any/all effects as He wills it. He could send angels to catch you from jumping off the roof of your house. Who is doing that?

Perhaps I'm a little sensitive to promotion of this injection and misread your comments ... but the cv vax isn't a vax. The CDC even sought to redefine the term "vaccine" just for this injection's inclusion. It doesn't change the science, but clearly it changes perceptions.

 

[JonC]

Hmm.

I'm pretty sure the MMR series weren't based upon re-writing cellular coding with mRNA. If we had a MLV (modified live virus ... like the MMR series) vaccine for the SARS Cov2 virus, there'd be much less resistance.

Never mind the actual threat of this virus/disease ... >99% even considering the relatively significant mortality rate of the elderly/with significant comorbidity.

God is supreme and He can inhibit any/all effects as He wills it. He could send angels to catch you from jumping off the roof of your house. Who is doing that?

Perhaps I'm a little sensitive to promotion of this injection and misread your comments ... but the cv vax isn't a vax. The CDC even sought to redefine the term "vaccine" just for this injection's inclusion. It doesn't change the science, but clearly it changes perceptions.

A few things are false in your post

First, the mRNA vaccine does not rewrite cellular code. Messenger RNA carries codes from the DNA in the nucleus to the ribosomes (where protein synthesis occurs). DNA determines cellular code. The vaccine uses mRNA to produce a specific protein in the ribosomes.

Second, the vaccines meet the definition of "vaccine". The idea that tge CDC was redefining words to call these vaccines "vaccines" is misinformation, usually from social media.

Now, don't get me wrong. The CDC did change their explanation of vaccine. It was “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”

But this was after the vaccines had been developed. The reason is some did not understand the word "immunity". All of our vaccines provide immunity but most do not keep people from getting the disease. You can take the measles vaccine and get the measles. Sane with the flu vaccine, the measles vaccine and the covid vaccines.what these vaccines provide is functional immunity (or protection) and not sterilizing immunity (prevention).

And yes, I do thank God for giving us these medical technologies. God is good.

 

[Two Wings]

A few things are false in your post

thanks for your reply.

Does the value of "two" represent "a few" for you?

The definition was changed. It was changed to accommodate this injection which at that point not received anything called "approval" by the FDA, but still under the EUA. Nothing changed about the process of approval, nothing changed with the injected biological agent. Only the declared definition. It wasn't a social media problem. The problem is in the desired effect. Social media has played a role in distributing this inconsistency, but that it's been ON social media doesn't change the truth.

Since there's no response to "jumping off of a roof," can I understand we agree we are not to tempt the Lord our God? ... and that such would be that very thing?

I'm not all that and a bag of chips, but I researched from immunologists, veterinarians, and in websites such as WebMD, John Hopkins, Pfizer, Stanford school of Medicine, and UTSouthwest Medical then wrote this paper.

cellular code in my reference wasn't accurate and I apologize for being so lax in nomenclature ... but the point is the cv vaxes reprogram cells. Moderna literally calls their product an "operating system."

you support these things and that's your choice, but I encourage you to avoid becoming vested to the point you cannot/will not (ego, and we all have one) acknowledge what is really happening here.

A couple points have been addressed since I wrote this paper ... though not substantively ANSWERED.

Offered freely ...

 

[JonC]

thanks for your reply.

Does the value of "two" represent "a few" for you?

The definition was changed. It was changed to accommodate this injection which at that point not received anything called "approval" by the FDA, but still under the EUA. Nothing changed about the process of approval, nothing changed with the injected biological agent. Only the declared definition. It wasn't a social media problem. The problem is in the desired effect. Social media has played a role in distributing this inconsistency, but that it's been ON social media doesn't change the truth.

Since there's no response to "jumping off of a roof," can I understand we agree we are not to tempt the Lord our God? ... and that such would be that very thing?

I'm not all that and a bag of chips, but I researched from immunologists, veterinarians, and in websites such as WebMD, John Hopkins, Pfizer, Stanford school of Medicine, and UTSouthwest Medical then wrote this paper.

cellular code in my reference wasn't accurate and I apologize for being so lax in nomenclature ... but the point is the cv vaxes reprogram cells. Moderna literally calls their product an "operating system."

you support these things and that's your choice, but I encourage you to avoid becoming vested to the point you cannot/will not (ego, and we all have one) acknowledge what is really happening here.

A couple points have been addressed since I wrote this paper ... though not substantively ANSWERED.

Offered freely ...

No. But I didn't want to tear apart your post. You have some good input.

The mRNA does tell the cell to make a protein. I did not realize you were comparing the vaccine to a computer program (like a thumb drive). I was referring to actually changing the code (genitic code) of the cell (which would require genetically altering the DNA in the nucleus of the cell).

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

you have a unique perspective of Trump and I respect that.

It reminds me, though, of my company's former CEO ... Bob Crandall. He was no "friend" to labor, but you never were concerned about the company's ability to compete. That's been a serious concern ever since ... especially NOW.

So, while I can certainly accept Trump wasn't a "friend" to labor, I believe if we can separate the personal experience from what 2017-2021 was in governance and foreign relations ... we can see even mentioning the two in the same sentence for comparison is an errant venture.

Trump may well be Cyrus ... but Biden is at best Nimrod. Both in that office by the direction of I Am.

A Nimrod he is. Incompetent, clueless, tax & spend blah blah

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The Dems are setting up The Communist takeover.

Totalitarianism at the very least…

 

[Two Wings]

But I didn't want to tear apart your post.

I appreciate your restraint. LOL.

and as I present in my little two-bit paper; I do understand the difference in programming a cell vice changing its DNA.

Since the boosters are being pushed at 5 months (surreal, btw, shouldn't that scream ineffective?), do you think this is the maximum duration of CV19 spike protein imitation production?