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David Wilkerson: An Urgent Message

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Victorious said:
Grasshopper said:
If you are asking me, please re-read what I wrote. I never said I believe that. I don't.

As far as taking the bible literally... I believe in the inerrant scriptures, but much is symbolic. I certainly do not believe Jesus is an actual piece of bread.

It's funny, but I have to wonder why all these philosophical questions and disputes over nothing? How many Christians do you think it takes to change a light bulb? Answer? WHO KNOWS AND WHO CARES? Are you baiting?

What is time? To God one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day. Do you want truth or pseudo-religion in the form of man-centered theology? Does God take note of time? Well, I suppose He does, since He gave us the ability to judge times and seasons by the stars! He has numbered our days...etc. There were prophecies that had specific times attached (Daniel 9) but others with prophetic warnings that were dependent upon a turning away of sin. God always gives us time to repent and always warns Him people ahead of time. He doesn't always place his judgments into a period of time. And remember Jonah? He was to prophesy but God changed the program!

But you seem to be referring to Dispensationalism. God has given us the signs of His coming and for a reason. More importantly... Do you believe Jesus Christ will return in the flesh and that we should have our lamps lit in perpetual anticipation of the event? If we do this, "time" as we know it is irrelevant.

I'm not sure your understanding of "this generation" is accurate. But I will refrain from commenting because I'm not sure where you are coming from. (on a personal note...I've been up all night with a new litter of puppies and I'm running on low...:sleep:

Had to edit and repost... Sorry 'bout that. I'd better get some sleep.
 

Me4Him

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Wilkerson prophecy brought back to mind a dream I had some years ago.

In the dream, the east coast, north of Va, East of PA, had an earthquake, all power lines, all "pipes" in the ground, (water/sewer/gas) were broke, all interstate "Bridges" fell,

the only way in/out of NY was by "Helicopter".

Was it a "vision" or just a dream, I don't know, but I'm still watching.
 

ajg1959

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EdSutton said:
A mite 'alarmist' and 'sensationalistic' doncha' think??

Wonder why he is the only one to be "compelled by the Holy Spirit to send out an urgent message" on this particular thing, being as I have seen it nowhere else?

Ed


Yeah Ed, its hard to believe that God would leave you "out of the loop":laugh:

AJ
 

annsni

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Me4Him said:
Wilkerson prophecy brought back to mind a dream I had some years ago.

In the dream, the east coast, north of Va, East of PA, had an earthquake, all power lines, all "pipes" in the ground, (water/sewer/gas) were broke, all interstate "Bridges" fell,

the only way in/out of NY was by "Helicopter".

Was it a "vision" or just a dream, I don't know, but I'm still watching.

I just went to NJ from Long Island and back. The "only way in/out of NY was by helicopter" is fact even today. :laugh: Took me 2 hours to get home from Staten Island - with no traffic it would take me about 40 minutes.
 

ajg1959

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annsni said:
I just went to NJ from Long Island and back. The "only way in/out of NY was by helicopter" is fact even today. :laugh: Took me 2 hours to get home from Staten Island - with no traffic it would take me about 40 minutes.


True story here.

Last summer back home (way down south), we were going home from church, and the police had the main highway blocked. They were letting two mother ducks and two groups of baby ducks cross the road. This was the first traffic jam we experienced since the cows broke the fence and got out back in the 70's.

I guess the urgency of prophecy depends on where you live.

AJ
 

EdSutton

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Victorious said:
Well Ed, I'm not sure your question is edifying or meant to tear down. Are you a mocker, or someone who knows the facts? If you are implying that I'm a wacko and we do not have genetically modified STERILE seeds (compliments of Monsanto), I would suggest you stroll down to Walmart and ask the person in charge of the nursery. I did. To top that off, before you give an opinion on "conspiracy theorists" check the local garden clubs. It's always better to have knowledge before you bait. If on the other hand, you are a fellow gardner, forget the above paragraph. :saint:

"Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear." (Ephesians 4:29 NASB)

I love this forum...:love2:

No, I merely noticed you mentioned gardening.

I am a farmer who also raises a garden, and who likes heirloom varieties, especially tomatoes, and specifically including the 'Stone' variety, which my father used to raise, but I have difficulty in finding, these days. They happen to be a very good "canning tomato" wiht their size and keeping qualities, FTR. The question was not meant to be either particularly "edifying" nor "meant to tear down" but was asked for information purposes.

FTR, my friendly local Walmart does not have Stone tomato seeds. Nor does my local Southern States, nor do any of the local hardware or farm stores, or even any nurseries that I'm aware of, around here.

Ed
 
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EdSutton

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ajg1959 said:
Yeah Ed, its hard to believe that God would leave you "out of the loop":laugh:

AJ
I'm not claiming to be either "in the loop" or "out of the loop"for that matter on the subject. But I will claim to have not seen this POV expressed anywhere else, in this same manner, so it causes a large warning light to start flashing, for me, anyway.

Ed
 

EdSutton

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Me4Him said:
Wilkerson prophecy brought back to mind a dream I had some years ago.

In the dream, the east coast, north of Va, East of PA, had an earthquake, all power lines, all "pipes" in the ground, (water/sewer/gas) were broke, all interstate "Bridges" fell,

the only way in/out of NY was by "Helicopter".

Was it a "vision" or just a dream, I don't know, but I'm still watching.
FTR, several of the bridges in and out of New York are not "interstate "Bridges"," including the Brooklyn, Broadway, Williamsburg, Manhattan, Bayonne, Outerbridge Crossing, and several more on the north end of Manhattan. However, all three tunnels are (or were intended to be) 'interstates'.

Perhaps the road map in your dream needs to be updated. :D

Road fan, Ed
 
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webdog

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It's been two days..what calamity occured? The only one I can think of are the millions of lost people who passed into eternity these past 2 days.
 

annsni

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EdSutton said:
FTR, several of the bridges in and out of New York are not "interstate "Bridges"," including the Brooklyn, Broadway, Williamsburg, Manhattan, Bayonne, Outerbridge Crossing, and several more on the north end of Manhattan. However, all three tunnels are (or were intended to be) 'interstates'.

Perhaps the road map in your dream needs to be updated. :D

Road fan, Ed

Can I just ask a question? Why does Hawaii have interstates?

:laugh:
 

EdSutton

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annsni said:
Can I just ask a question? Why does Hawaii have interstates?

:laugh:
"Certainly, you may ask!"

Signed, Language Cop

"Well, I can see that ol' LC is in one of those moods, again." :rolleyes:

Signed, Ed



Now, as to the question.

For the same reason that every other state, DC, and PR have Interstates.

The Interstate System was legislated by Congress, into law, more than 50 years ago, and the roads in that system were designated as Interstate Highways. This has to do with the initial method of funding these roads, not where they traverse, at all.

And yes, I assure you that both PR and AK also have Interstates just as the 'continental' 48 and DC.

Would it surprise you to know that usually, there are actually several more Interstate Routes that are located entirely within one state, than the number that actually cross state lines? That is true for the Eisenhower Interstate System, as a while. And yes, that is entirely true for New York, as well. ;)

Ed
 
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annsni

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EdSutton said:
"Certainly, you may ask!"

Signed, Language Cop

"Well, I can see that ol' LC is in one of those moods, again." :rolleyes:

Signed, Ed



Now, as to the question.

For the same reason that every other state, DC, and PR have interstates.

The Interstate System was legislated by Congress, into law, more than 50 years ago, and the roads in that system were designated as Interstate highways. This has to do with the initial method of funding these roads, not where they traverse, at all.

And yes, I assure you that both PR and AK also have interstates just as the 'continental' 48 and DC.

Would it surprise you to know that usually, there are actually several more Interstate routes that are located entirely within one state, than the number that actually cross state lines? That is true for the Eisenhower Interstate System, as a while. And yes, that is entirely true for New York, as well. ;)

Ed


Then why call them 'interstate"? LOL - It makes no sense to me.

Yep - Long Island has the Long Island Expressway - Interstate 495 which goes into NYC and stops. It's only in NY. :)
 

Beth

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yes

matt wade said:
A calamity has happened. This false teacher has claimed to predict the future.

I wouldn't pay much attention to what he says either. I researched him a while ago, and have chosen to put him aside.

Beth
 

EdSutton

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annsni said:
Then why call them 'interstate"? LOL - It makes no sense to me.

Yep - Long Island has the Long Island Expressway - Interstate 495 which goes into NYC and stops. It's only in NY. :)
So are routes I-87, I-88 (E), and several other "threes" such as I-295, 678, and several others around or into several of the major cities in NY, located entirely in the state of NY.

An "Interstate" is not necessarily, nor does it even need to be "interstate" when "Interstate" is a proper noun (or adjective), and/or designation.

Ed
 

Johnv

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I am not even saying that Mr. Wilkerson is correct on his specific warning, but I certainly do not discount it... Time will tell (the test of any prophetic words.)

Well, let's see what time has told in regards to Wlkerson. Here are some "predictions" he got wrong:

He foresaw an economic crisis and collapse that would lead to one world order, but said it woud be Europe, not America.

He predicted total collapse through the by the end of 1999, followed by an economic collapse in 2004 (2004 ended up beng one of the strongest economic years).

He claimed America would “die” August 1998.

He claimed that religious broadcasting would be put to an end by 1999.

He predicted Reagan would leave office in disgrace.

He also predicted that, by the end of the 70's nudity would be a normal thing on mainstream television, and that nude dancing would be a feature in churches. Well over 30 years has passed. Nudity is not featured on at any rate mainstream US TV, and there are certainly no nude dancing in churches.
 

ccrobinson

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*rubs eyes and rereads the post again*

Johnv? Is that really you? Man, It's been a long time since you've been round these parts. Welcome back. :)
 

Allan

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Well over 30 years has passed. Nudity is not featured on at any rate mainstream US TV, ...
Apparently you don't watch TV after 10pm. :(

Most shows that are 'editted' movies, playing after 10pm, leave in topless scenes and rear ends of either s*x, and have for nearly 19 years or so. Well I should state the last 7 years we haven't had a TV, but since the 90's it has been because, in my teen years we only had basic cable, and my cousins and I would sneak on our TV's and watch certain shows we knew had these types of scenes - and were seldom disappointed.
 

Johnv

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Most shows that are 'editted' movies, playing after 10pm, leave in topless scenes and rear ends of either s*x, and have for nearly 19 years or so.
I usually don't watch tv past 10, no "butts" about it. Granted, there are shows that indeed show brief rear ends, but frontal nudity is not shown even on late night commercial television. Even if there are occaisions, it doesn't remotely come close to Wilkerson's failed predictions.

Still waiting for nude dancing in church.

BTW, on a sidenote, I often wonder if we have done ourselves a disservice by equating nudity with eroticism. In other countries, they dont' always go hand in hand. DIfferent topic, I suppse.
 
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Allan

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I usually don't watch tv past 10, no "butts" about it. Granted, there are shows that indeed show brief rear ends, but frontal nudity is not shown even on late night commercial television. Even if there are occaisions, it doesn't remotely come close to Wilkerson's failed predictions.
I wasn't defending Wilkerson, just so you know, but was correcting your comment of "Nudity is not featured on at any rate mainstream US TV"
, which in your post back to me agree you were not entirely accurate in your previous statement. We are NO WHERE near as bad as British TV nor others, I will grant you that :thumbs:

BTW, on a sidenote, I often wonder if we have done ourselves a disservice by equating nudity with eroticism. In other countries, they dont' always go hand in hand. DIfferent topic, I suppse
It doesn't matter if we do nor not, God condemns it and that is where it stands resolute.
 
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