Decisional Regeneration

RB, I think you will probably say the most important thing to God is to glorify Himself. I don't know about that. God IS. He is I AM. I don't know how much thought He gives to glorifying Himself. He doesn't have to because He's God, I AM. I love His name! I'm not sure if that makes any sense to anyone except me. :tongue3:

But, it seems to me that from the time God created the world and everything in it, His purpose has been to create a family for Himself. This is what I read from Genesis to Revalation. I think the most important thing to God is His children and the family He has made for Himself which will last for all eternity.

 

1. God acts on behalf of himself. Whatever he does is to bring glory to himself (Ps 115:3; Isa. 48:9-11).

2. God created man to glorify himself (Isa.43:6, 7).

 

OK, He's making a family to glorify Himself.

Seriously, what does it mean for God to "glorify" Himself?

 

That's interesting neither verse states that all God does is for His own glory. Neither verse backs up your belief.

Still doesn't say all God does is for His own glory. I'm affraid that your statement is an assumption on your part.
MB

 

For God to glorify Himself is to enjoy Himself forever!

 

Hi MB,

1. "Who caused His glorious arm to go at the right hand of Moses, Who divided the waters before them to make for Himself an everlasting name, Who led them through the depths? Like the horse in the wilderness, they did not stumble; As the cattle which go down into the valley, The Spirit of the LORD gave them rest. So You led Your people, To make for Yourself a glorious name" . (Isaiah 63:14, emphasis added)

2. "Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, "Now I will restore the fortunes of Jacob and have mercy on the whole house of Israel; and I will be jealous for My holy name." (Ezekiel 39:25,emphasis mine)

3. "For the sake of My name I delay My wrath, And for My praise I restrain it for you, In order not to cut you off. Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction. For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act; For how can My name be profaned? And My glory I will not give to another. (Isaiah 48:11)

4. Often in Scripture, the name of God stands for His glory. As all those texts demonstrate, God seeks His own glory in what He does.

 

1. What pleases God brings Him glory. If He does whatever He pleases, then He brings Himself glory in what He does.

2. In this Hebrew parallelism, God acts for His own glory and His glory He will not give to another.

3. If He does not give His glory to another, then God must keep it for Himself. I know of no other explanation.

 

Why does He need creation to do so? You mean He would not enjoy Himself forever without the Genesis 1 account?

 

God decided to go public with His glory, so much so that even creation brings Him glory (Psa. 19:1).

 

We are not to pick and pull what we want to believe out of scripture that will fit our doctrine, but live by every word that comes from the mouth of God.

The word of God can never change, but our man-made doctrine can be changed for the scriptures.

 

If it's all about God's glory then God would be self seeking. God sent His son to die for me. Can there be a more selfless act? Can there be any greater act of Love than to lay down your life for another. If not your life what about your only Son's life. Was it glory to be beaten ? was it glory to be spat upon? Was it glory to ask for a drink and be give Gall instead? God's focus is His treasure and His treasure is those who willingly worship and Love Him. He should be our treasure Just as we are His.
MB

 

I don't think he placed the creeature above the Creator. He detailed the Creator bringing the creature to full redemption and into the Creator's family...the Creator's design from the beginning.

 

1. As RB, just outlined, the natural man repudiates the idea of God seeking His own glory.

2. You have made no attempt to explain all those passages I quoted. None.

3. When did God seek your counsel or mine about the ethical value of seeking His own glory? God is the only Being for whom seeking His own glory is not a sin. If God didn't seek His own glory, He would not send His Son to die for sinful man.

4. "But the LORD was pleased To crush Him, putting Him to grief; If He would render Himself as a guilt offering, He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days, And the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand." (Isaiah 53:10, emphasis)

5. "Crushing the Son" glorified the Father. The Hebrew verb behind "pleased" means "to delight in, having pleasure in."

 

scripture

For instance you can change the scripture that God loved the world that He sent His Son.

I have alway's loved God the day I heard this. I was like 6 years old. I had no Idea what that meant. I was told that He was the creator of the universe. I thought it was just awesome that the creator of the world loved me. I was the world. I couldn't understand the Son part, but knowing God loved me was all I needed.

I knew what love was.

You either believe it or you don't. I will not disagree with or change any scripture that you give me. Scripture will never take away from another scripture, but it adds on to other scripture's. We cannot take away or add to scripture but have faith in it.

God does love the world even if some can't understand it through the veil of man-made doctrine.

I prayed all the time to God when i was younger to make me superman, so i could change the world. God introduced me to His Son Jesus Christ when I was 11.

Superman is already here and He is here to save the world.

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Jesus is right at your door knocking to let Him in, just open the door and He will come in and change your life.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.