Democrats And Illegals

[GoodTidings]

Trump has torn down environmental regulations that were institutes to preserve clean air and water.

And we still have clean air and clean water. What Trump is doing is taking down unnecessary and overly burdensome regulations that inhibit progress and kill jobs.

It has been demonstrated that several states were gerrymandered to give Republicans a better chance of winning them.

The Democrats do it, as well. And the Democrats are trying rig the election system by wanting to give illegals the right to vote in the next general election and other elections as well. Not to mention, the Dems want to abolish the Electoral College in order to give liberal population centers the only ones with the power to elect the next president.

No one needs assault rifles for hunting or self protection.

When last I read the Constitution, the 2nd Amendment was part of the Bill of Rights, not "The Bill of Needs."

[/quote]They are the weapon of choice for mass murderers. [/quote]
AR-15's are not assault rifles. There are no such things as "assault rifles." That is a term made up by the Democrats to demonize AR-15. It is not a military weapon; it is a sporting rifle. You can do as much damage with a lever-action Henry rifle and a single action Cattleman revolver as you could an AR-15.

Mass murderers use cars, knives, rope, as well. Should we ban those, as well? Millions of AR-15 users went to bed last night and didn't shoot anyone. Why should law abiding citizens have their gun rights stripped when a criminal breaks the law with a gun? Do we take cars away from everyone when someone kills another person in a drunk driving incident? Or do we simply punish the guilty party?

An armed militia was detaining immigrants at the border in Texas. Both the border patrol and th Gov. asked them to back off but they persisted in defiance of the law.

That was ONE militia or a group that called themselves a militia. But of course, since you're an irrational Liberal, you assume all militias are the same. And you use the actions of one to judge all of them.

Unarmed blacks have been shot in the back and hjad deadly force used against them even when they were obeying a police officer's commands.

No one is condoning that. But those cases are like 1% of what actually happens. Far more police are being ambushed and killed by people who hate the police. We hear more about that, than we do about bad cops, but you liberals don't want to talk about that, do you??

Ivanka Trump embarrassed America at the G-20 meeting masquerading as a government official. None of the other world leaders recognized her as such.

She did not do ONE thing that was embarrassing to the US. I can promise you that if it had been Obama and Malia, Malia would have been treated far differently.

Trump and his family are making a lot of money illegally during his presidency.

That is not true. He has lost over $1Billion since he was elected.

 

[GoodTidings]

Automatic Weapons Are Legal, But It Takes A Lot To Get 1 Of The 630,000 In The US

They are basically illegal and too expensive for most of the 70 million gun owners in the US. Only those who are extremely wealthy and are professional gun enthusiasts can sell or buy them. And so that measly number of guns really doesn't speak to the fact that AR-15s are not automatic and you cannot make them automatic, legally.

The problem isn't the millions of law abiding ctizens who own Ar-15s. Teh problem is with mentally ill people and gang members and those who obtain weapons illegally, who are in many cases .legally barred from owning them, but acquire them on the black market.

What the Left wants to do is ban weapons that are legal to own until no one can own a gun and it will be easier to force everyone into a socialistic society. Every socialist country has an unarmed citizenry that they can control. That's what the Democrats want, but US citizens are not going to be socialists and will not give up their guns. They will fight. Because we are citizens, not subjects.[/QUOTE]

 

[FollowTheWay]

And we still have clean air and clean water. What Trump is doing is taking down unnecessary and overly burdensome regulations that inhibit progress and kill jobs.

The Democrats do it, as well. And the Democrats are trying rig the election system by wanting to give illegals the right to vote in the next general election and other elections as well. Not to mention, the Dems want to abolish the Electoral College in order to give liberal population centers the only ones with the power to elect the next president.


AR-15's are not assault rifles. There are no such things as "assault rifles." That is a term made up by the Democrats to demonize AR-15. It is not a military weapon; it is a sporting rifle. You can do as much damage with a lever-action Henry rifle and a single action Cattleman revolver as you could an AR-15.

Mass murderers use cars, knives, rope, as well. Should we ban those, as well

That was ONE militia or a group that called themselves a militia. But of course, since you're an irrational Liberal, you assume all militias are the same. And you use the actions of one to judge all of them.


No one is condoning that. But those cases are like 1% of what actually happens. Far more police are being ambushed and killed by people who hate the police. We hear more about that, than we do about bad cops, but you liberals don't want to talk about that, do you??


She did not do ONE thing that was embarrassing to the US. I can promise you that if it had been Obama and Malia, Malia would have been treated far differently.

That is not true. He has lost over $1Billion since he was elected.

EPA CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENTS HIT 30-YEAR LOW
January 15, 2019

A running list of how President Trump is changing environmental policy

A report by the nonprofit Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) found the Environmental Protection Agency's criminal prosecutions under the Trump administration have been the lowest they've been in 30 years.

Much of the EPA's authority comes from the agency's ability to prosecute organizations that have violated environmental standards, but the Trump administration has been vocal about scaling back regulations and reducing EPA legal authority.

Only 166 referrals were sent to the Department of Justice during the last fiscal quarter. The EPA hasn't filed such few cases since the Reagan administration. Under the Clinton administration, criminal referrals reached just under 600.

In a press release, PEER attributed the steep decline to the agency's reduced budget for enforcement staff. Before leaving office, former administrator Scott Pruitt reportedly pulled agents from regional offices to staff his large security detail.

Last August, the agency also renamed their National Enforcement Initiative to the National Compliance Initiative. The change brought with it a softer approach to reprimanding polluters. For instance, a company could be allowed to negotiate an agreement to change their actions instead of facing prosecution. Though decried by environmentalists, the EPA says the change will help them tackle a broader scope of violations.

Environmental groups say not enforcing violations is a subtle way for the agency to scale back the EPA without passing large policy changes.

 

[FollowTheWay]

The Real-Life Effects of Trump’s Environmental Rollbacks: 5 Takeaways From Our Investigation
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/trump-environment-regulation-rollbacks.html
The rollbacks touch air, water, chemicals and climate
No parts of the federal government during the Trump era have been more aggressive in rolling back rules than the Environmental Protection Agency and the Interior Department, which between them regulate much of the intersection between the environment and the economy. Together their rule changes have touched nearly every aspect of environmental protection, including air pollution caused by power plants and the oil and gas industry, water pollution caused by coal mines, and toxic chemicals and pesticides used by farmers nationwide.

In short, what is at stake is the quality of the air we breathe and the food we eat, the cleanliness of the rivers that flow past us, and the pace at which the climate is changing. Two years after Mr. Trump took office, the policy shifts are not nearly complete; dozens of other rules have been targeted for rollback.

After decades of legislation and regulation, the environment in the United States continues to get cleaner. What has changed under Mr. Trump in most cases is the pace of improvement, which has been slowed in a number of key areas compared to what it would have been if the Obama rules had been preserved.

 

[FollowTheWay]

They are basically illegal and too expensive for most of the 70 million gun owners in the US. Only those who are extremely wealthy and are professional gun enthusiasts can sell or buy them. And so that measly number of guns really doesn't speak to the fact that AR-15s are not automatic and you cannot make them automatic, legally.

The problem isn't the millions of law abiding ctizens who own Ar-15s. Teh problem is with mentally ill people and gang members and those who obtain weapons illegally, who are in many cases .legally barred from owning them, but acquire them on the black market.

What the Left wants to do is ban weapons that are legal to own until no one can own a gun and it will be easier to force everyone into a socialistic society. Every socialist country has an unarmed citizenry that they can control. That's what the Democrats want, but US citizens are not going to be socialists and will not give up their guns. They will fight. Because we are citizens, not subjects.

[/QUOTE]
610,000 automatic weapons is a lot wouldn't you agree? That could outfit an army. Why shouldn't they be banned?

 

[GoodTidings]

You still don'[t understand the difference between Democratic Socialism and Communism. What Democratic country has progressed into communism?

The problem is that people like you look at the word "Democratic" and you think that somehow sanitizes Socialism. The Nazis were Democratic Socialists. That is the kind of totalitarianism that you want to bring into this country. Hitler was democratically elected and that brought Democratic Socialism to Germany manifested in the Nazi party.

The point is that Communism is the goal. The goal of Socialism is to bring Communism into being. Democratic Socialism is Socialism and Socialism is always totalitarian. The problem is that people like you are not honest about the plight of people who live in true Democratic Socialist countries like Cuba, North Korea, and Venezuela. You are not honest about the Nazis and the way that Democratic Socialism nearly destroyed all of Germany.

America will never be a socialist country and there millions in this country who will give their lives to make sure it doesn't.

Trump has accomplished nothing with N. Korea or Iran. Both situations are worse than they were under Obama. Trump admires dictators and wants to become one. That isn't going to happen.

No, the sitution isn't worse in either case. Under Obama, NK was firing off missles right and left and Obama would not talk to NK. Under Obama Iran was free to build nuclear weapons while everyone was pretending that their goal was peaceful. Obama made sure that they had plenty of money to continue being the #1 exporter of terrorism. Trump has cut off their ability to export terrorism.

Under Obama, the Democrat party became anti-America, pro-terror, the party became more Muslim and more Homosexual. They became the party that favors killing infant children after birth. They became the party of people who don't what gender they are and don't know what bathroom to use.

The Democrat party has become the party that runs cities where people can poop on the sidewalk and as a result we are now seeing medieval diseases like the black plague in America. Democrat cities are the most violent and have the highest gun crime rates in the country.

The Democrat party is filthy and sleasy.

 

[GoodTidings]

610,000 automatic weapons is a lot wouldn't you agree? That could outfit an army. Why shouldn't they be banned?

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It sounds like a lot except you have 70 million gunowners who own over 300 million firearms and that number is increasing. 610,000 isn't a drop in the bucket compared to what Americans own across the nation.

Owning automatics is constitutional, but it is regulated and rightly so. They are expensive to own and most people are satisfied with semi-autos.

 

[GoodTidings]

EPA CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENTS HIT 30-YEAR LOW
January 15, 2019

A running list of how President Trump is changing environmental policy

A report by the nonprofit Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) found the Environmental Protection Agency's criminal prosecutions under the Trump administration have been the lowest they've been in 30 years.

Much of the EPA's authority comes from the agency's ability to prosecute organizations that have violated environmental standards, but the Trump administration has been vocal about scaling back regulations and reducing EPA legal authority.

Only 166 referrals were sent to the Department of Justice during the last fiscal quarter. The EPA hasn't filed such few cases since the Reagan administration. Under the Clinton administration, criminal referrals reached just under 600.

In a press release, PEER attributed the steep decline to the agency's reduced budget for enforcement staff. Before leaving office, former administrator Scott Pruitt reportedly pulled agents from regional offices to staff his large security detail.

Last August, the agency also renamed their National Enforcement Initiative to the National Compliance Initiative. The change brought with it a softer approach to reprimanding polluters. For instance, a company could be allowed to negotiate an agreement to change their actions instead of facing prosecution. Though decried by environmentalists, the EPA says the change will help them tackle a broader scope of violations.

Environmental groups say not enforcing violations is a subtle way for the agency to scale back the EPA without passing large policy changes.

You know what was a crime according to the EPA under Obama??? Using water on your own property. The environmental standards were very radical in many places and criminalized things that should not have been criminalized.

 

[GoodTidings]

The Real-Life Effects of Trump’s Environmental Rollbacks: 5 Takeaways From Our Investigation
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/trump-environment-regulation-rollbacks.html
The rollbacks touch air, water, chemicals and climate
No parts of the federal government during the Trump era have been more aggressive in rolling back rules than the Environmental Protection Agency and the Interior Department, which between them regulate much of the intersection between the environment and the economy. Together their rule changes have touched nearly every aspect of environmental protection, including air pollution caused by power plants and the oil and gas industry, water pollution caused by coal mines, and toxic chemicals and pesticides used by farmers nationwide.

In short, what is at stake is the quality of the air we breathe and the food we eat, the cleanliness of the rivers that flow past us, and the pace at which the climate is changing. Two years after Mr. Trump took office, the policy shifts are not nearly complete; dozens of other rules have been targeted for rollback.

After decades of legislation and regulation, the environment in the United States continues to get cleaner. What has changed under Mr. Trump in most cases is the pace of improvement, which has been slowed in a number of key areas compared to what it would have been if the Obama rules had been preserved.

Rollbacks are not eliminations of all regulations. It was a rollback of the ones that make it near impossible to run a factory or run a business.

 

[FollowTheWay]

The problem is that people like you look at the word "Democratic" and you think that somehow sanitizes Socialism. The Nazis were Democratic Socialists. That is the kind of totalitarianism that you want to bring into this country. Hitler was democratically elected and that brought Democratic Socialism to Germany manifested in the Nazi party.

The point is that Communism is the goal. The goal of Socialism is to bring Communism into being. Democratic Socialism is Socialism and Socialism is always totalitarian. The problem is that people like you are not honest about the plight of people who live in true Democratic Socialist countries like Cuba, North Korea, and Venezuela. You are not honest about the Nazis and the way that Democratic Socialism nearly destroyed all of Germany.

America will never be a socialist country and there millions in this country who will give their lives to make sure it doesn't.


No, the sitution isn't worse in either case. Under Obama, NK was firing off missles right and left and Obama would not talk to NK. Under Obama Iran was free to build nuclear weapons while everyone was pretending that their goal was peaceful. Obama made sure that they had plenty of money to continue being the #1 exporter of terrorism. Trump has cut off their ability to export terrorism.

Under Obama, the Democrat party became anti-America, pro-terror, the party became more Muslim and more Homosexual. They became the party that favors killing infant children after birth. They became the party of people who don't what gender they are and don't know what bathroom to use.

The Democrat party has become the party that runs cities where people can poop on the sidewalk and as a result we are now seeing medieval diseases like the black plague in America. Democrat cities are the most violent and have the highest gun crime rates in the country.

The Democrat party is filthy and sleasy.

The Nazi's were National Socialists and were far right not leftists contrary to what everyone here claims.

 

[Adonia]

In short, what is at stake is the quality of the air we breathe and the food we eat, the cleanliness of the rivers that flow past us, and the pace at which the climate is changing.

No they aren't, the basic clean air and water laws are still in effect. Obama's EPA was so stringent, it had the puddle in my back field classified as a waterway.

 

[FollowTheWay]

No they aren't, the basic clean air and water laws are still in effect. Obama's EPA was so stringent, it had the puddle in my back field classified as a waterway.

You're wrong. Proof?

 

[Adonia]

The Nazi's were National Socialists and were far right not leftists contrary to what everyone here claims.

Socialism is of the left. In Germany the National Socialists controlled healthcare, the press and publishing industry, the auto industry, the schools, etc, etc. In the 1930's, the clash in Germany was between the International Socialists (People who sought to integrate into a worldwide system) and the National Socialists who were concerned mainly with their own countries well being. The National Socialists as we all know won control.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Socialism is of the left. In Germany the National Socialists controlled healthcare, the press and publishing industry, the auto industry, the schools, etc, etc. In the 1930's, the clash in Germany was between the International Socialists (People who sought to integrate into a worldwide system) and the National Socialists who were concerned mainly with their own countries well being. The National Socialists as we all know won control.

Despite their name the National Socialists (Nazi's) were far right. The communists are far left.

 

[just-want-peace]

I have heard it said that if you aren't liberal when young, you don't have a heart, but if you aren't conservative when an adult, you don't have a brain!
Many of the posts on this board (and especially this thread) seem to verify that concept. SAD!!!!

 

[GoodTidings]

The Nazi's were National Socialists and were far right not leftists contrary to what everyone here claims.

The Name of the party was, National Socialist German Worker's Party.

Democracy is mob rule. As Benjamin Franklin put it, A Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner.

America is not a Democracy; we are representative Republic that protect the minority from mob rule. It's why we have an Electoral College.

Democrat Socialism vs. National Socialism is nothing more than semantics. Hitler used the mob rule of Democracy to promote hatred of the Jews and there was no representation for the Jews to stop him. It was Democratic mob rule and he had the mob on his side. He was ONE man in charge of the entire nation and his word was law. He had the mob behind him to carry out his orders.

Democratic Socialist countries are as totalitarian as Hitler and his Nazi party. To say he was far right, is false claim not rooted in real history. Leftists want to rewrite history to make Hitler far right, as well as the Nazis, but that is simply not true.

Socialism is a Leftist value, not a Conservative value. Bernie Sanders who promotes socialism admires the socialism of the Soviet Union. He and every Leftist that is running for president is offering the exact same things that Hitler offered the German people and even more. He also disarmed the public just like every socialist totalitarian has, in the past.

 

[GoodTidings]

Despite their name the National Socialists (Nazi's) were far right. The communists are far left.

Yet, only liberals are offering what Socialist countries offer. Liberal values are Socialist values. You don't see conservatives wanting to make everything free. Sorry, but you don't have a clue beyond silly Liberal talking points.

 

[Adonia]

Democracy is mob rule

Which is why such a thing is not mentioned once in our founding documents. Face it, during the last 30 years the left (after infiltrating the government school system) has done a great job of dumbing down our youth as to the truth of our governing system.

 

[FollowTheWay]

The Name of the party was, National Socialist German Worker's Party.

Democracy is mob rule. As Benjamin Franklin put it, A Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner.

America is not a Democracy; we are representative Republic that protect the minority from mob rule. It's why we have an Electoral College.

Democrat Socialism vs. National Socialism is nothing more than semantics. Hitler used the mob rule of Democracy to promote hatred of the Jews and there was no representation for the Jews to stop him. It was Democratic mob rule and he had the mob on his side. He was ONE man in charge of the entire nation and his word was law. He had the mob behind him to carry out his orders.

Democratic Socialist countries are as totalitarian as Hitler and his Nazi party. To say he was far right, is false claim not rooted in real history. Leftists want to rewrite history to make Hitler far right, as well as the Nazis, but that is simply not true.

Socialism is a Leftist value, not a Conservative value. Bernie Sanders who promotes socialism admires the socialism of the Soviet Union. He and every Leftist that is running for president is offering the exact same things that Hitler offered the German people and even more. He also disarmed the public just like every socialist totalitarian has, in the past.

Democratic Socialism is NOT the same as Hitler's National Socialism. Nazism is far-right. That is the traditional definition not the Trump "fact." Democracy is not mob rule. Anarchy is mob rule. BTW, you were going to provide me a list of countries that have progressed from Democratic Socialism to Communism.

 

[GoodTidings]

Democratic Socialism is NOT the same as Hitler's National Socialism.

Yes it is. Socialism is socialism. There is no difference between "Socialism" and Democratic Socialism." They are the same exact thing.

Nazism is far-right.

That is just the typical Liberal lie. Nazism has nothing to do with far right. It's only "far right" because it is the only way you can demonize the Right. Nazism offered the exact same garbage, made the same promises to the Germans that the Socialists were making on the debate stage last week. It's the exact same thing, only by a different name.

That is the traditional definition not the Trump "fact." Democracy is not mob rule.

In a Democracy, the majority rules. That's why the Left wants to get rid of the Electoral College. They want to go to pure Democratic approach to voting in the General Election that would favor only large population centers and states with fewer voters would have no say at all. That's mob rule.

Anarchy is mob rule.

Anarchy isn't any kind of rule. Anarchy is the absence of any rule at all. Again, you don't know what you're talking about.

BTW, you were going to provide me a list of countries that have progressed from Democratic Socialism to Communism.

No, I wasn't. I never said that there were any countries that went from Socialism to Communism. I said that Communism is the goal of a socialistic society, according to Karl Marx. But every socialist country we have today is a train wreck. The Soviet Union was socialist, as is NK, and Venezuela and Cuba and so were the Nazis. That is the Democrat vision for America and real Americans are going to put an end to those socialist dreams. America will never be socialist as long as real Americans are still alive and kicking.

Everywhere you find socialism, you find totalitarianism and despots. No food, no money, nothing but oppression and poverty and that is what you Liberals would send America into if you had your way. You have bought into the Bernie Sander's myth about socialism where everything is just free.

Socialists are the enemies of the US and have no place in this country. We will never be socialist and there are enough of us to make sure it never does.