Demonic physical manifestations

[DHK]

would you conduct exorcisms DHK?

You watch too much TV, EWF :laugh::laugh:

Do you mean:

Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Doing battle with the devil?
Yes, I believe we need to be involved in spiritual battles.

 

[righteousdude2]

To Both Your Responses.....

You watch too much TV, EWF :laugh::laugh:

Do you mean:

Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Doing battle with the devil?
Yes, I believe we need to be involved in spiritual battles.

.....a huge AMEN!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[righteousdude2]

You Are Correct!

i do not recommend moving out
if you move out, so will your faith

whatever happened to "greater is He that is in you"?

are you not a christian? are spirits not subject to you?

either God isreal, or He is not.

If to you He is real, then use the power granted to you, and in the name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost, tell that hing to get the h___ out of there... now!!

im not into wimpy christianity
im into biblical christianity, where the Spirit of God lives within us, and the demons fear and tremble at our presence

we're not wimps
we're baptists!

do you want God to look down at you and say "ye of little faith"??

use your dormant christian power
and show that thing who is boss!!

amen

What you say is right on. The only thing I would change in what you say has to fo with your statement that "we're baptists!" More than the denomination, you and I are believers. Born-again; washed in His blood; and saved by His unconditional grace.

I am a Child of the King first, and if He doesn't mind me attaching a slight suffix, I'm a baptist by association.

I loved your statment, though, as it is what and who we are. If we, in Jesus name can't defeat what the devil throws our way, then we are sadly in need of returning to the cross and finding out what is wrong, because He has truly given us not only HIs authority, but His power (in the name of Jesus) to do His bidding.

I like to think of our work here on earth as being spiritual On-the-Job-Training. and one step more: we are deputized in the name in Jesus to carry out and enforce his authority as the Scripture so leads.
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[DHK]

Are you trying to imply that everyone who sees a spiritual manifestation or a UFO is demon possessed?

I have had several very godly pastors tell me of seeing or experiencing supernatural events such as ghosts/demons etc... I assure you these men were not demon possessed.


Just because someone sees something supernatural does not prove they are demon possessed or active in the occult. Sometimes it is just the opposite.

Let's look at this way Winman. I know you only from the internet.
Suppose we met in person someday. You introduce your pastor to me, saying: "This is my pastor_____. He is able to see demons and apparitions."

I guarantee you I would not be coming to your church.

 

[jprieto]

i think we are all able to see demons and apparitions
but we are not all serving and witnesing as we should
so we are not all a threat to demons, thus they appear not

but for those who are heavy into serving God, winning souls, and fleeing sin
well, those are a great concern to demons
thus they cause trouble

its all a matter who is a dormant christian, and who is not

twice i had personal encounters with them
it was not pretty, my pants still wet from fear

but i have grown in the lord, empowered greatly
they fear me now, i've become a headache for them

they are real
they manifest
they are scary

but so is God!
and he is on our side

 

[webdog]

Let's look at this way Winman. I know you only from the internet.
Suppose we met in person someday. You introduce your pastor to me, saying: "This is my pastor_____. He is able to see demons and apparitions."

I guarantee you I would not be coming to your church.

This is offensive. By your statement you are implying I am also demon possessed, righteousdude and the others on this thread with similar accounts.

 

[Yeshua1]

Friend of mine while in college, Andy, was in TM and eastern mysticism...

I was a recent christian, and he tried to get me to 'explore" his religion...

Warned him against doing anything like that...

he went ahead, and some time later, he came rushing into my room at the Dorm..

Said that things were peaceful and calm, went into his mantra chanting"clearing his mind" and went into a trace satte and saw what I call Demons out there yelling at him...

he was 'scared to death" and came back to waking up...

I tried to witness to him, but he would hvaenone of that...

Hopefully, ggot away from that eastern thought garbage!

 

[Yeshua1]

This is offensive. By your statement you are implying I am also demon possessed, righteousdude and the others on this thread with similar accounts.

wouldn't the gift from the Holy spirit of Spiritual discernment perhaps have the God given insight to be able to see and discern supernatural thing as NOT being what they seem, as from Devil and not from God?

 

[webdog]

wouldn't the gift from the Holy spirit of Spiritual discernment perhaps have the God given insight to be able to see and discern supernatural thing as NOT being what they seem, as from Devil and not from God?

I believe both believers and non can see demons if God allows. The difference is we know "ghosts" are not deceased humans while the lost believe it is just that.

I wonder if DHK would have considered Jesus' 12 demon possessed? Apparently they knew what "ghosts" were based on Matthew 14:26 as they thought Jesus was one.

 

[DHK]

I believe both believers and non can see demons if God allows. The difference is we know "ghosts" are not deceased humans while the lost believe it is just that.

I wonder if DHK would have considered Jesus' 12 demon possessed? Apparently they knew what "ghosts" were based on Matthew 14:26 as they thought Jesus was one.

Demons are spirits. They are unseen. The boy that threw himself to the ground was demon-possessed. There were no apparitions or visible manifestations of demons. Show me in the Bible where the apostles saw "ghosts," (there is no such thing), or any visible manifestation of a demon. Jesus sent them out, and they came back rejoicing for even the demons were subject to them. That doesn't mean they saw them. That means they cast them out of people, even as Jesus did.

 

[InTheLight]

Demons are spirits. They are unseen. The boy that threw himself to the ground was demon-possessed. There were no apparitions or visible manifestations of demons. Show me in the Bible where the apostles saw "ghosts," (there is no such thing), or any visible manifestation of a demon. Jesus sent them out, and they came back rejoicing for even the demons were subject to them. That doesn't mean they saw them. That means they cast them out of people, even as Jesus did.

What are the people in this thread seeing? Some reported seeing people or shadows moving.

 

[DHK]

What are the people in this thread seeing? Some reported seeing people or shadows moving.

I don't know. My first post was on page 14 and I only read a couple of pages back from there. I didn't bother to read the entire thread before I commented. I don't know the context in which they saw anything.

 

[Yeshua1]

What are the people in this thread seeing? Some reported seeing people or shadows moving.

Angels can appear in a bodily form, per the bible, but don't Demons ALWAYS need a host body to do such?

 

[webdog]

Angels can appear in a bodily form, per the bible, but don't Demons ALWAYS need a host body to do such?

where is this found in Scripture?

Evidently Jesus' disciples were aware there were such things as "ghosts" to think He was one. Either they had witnessed it or heard accounts of it to assume what they saw was one.

 

[Winman]

This is offensive. By your statement you are implying I am also demon possessed, righteousdude and the others on this thread with similar accounts.

Yes, I got that impression from DHK. Nice.

It could just be that spiritual folks are the ones who can see spiritual things.

2 Kings 6:11 Therefore the heart of the king of Syria was sore troubled for this thing; and he called his servants, and said unto them, Will ye not shew me which of us is for the king of Israel?
12 And one of his servants said, None, my lord, O king: but Elisha, the prophet that is in Israel, telleth the king of Israel the words that thou speakest in thy bedchamber.
13 And he said, Go and spy where he is, that I may send and fetch him. And it was told him, saying, Behold, he is in Dothan.
14 Therefore sent he thither horses, and chariots, and a great host: and they came by night, and compassed the city about.
15 And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master! how shall we do?
16 And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them.
17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
18 And when they came down to him, Elisha prayed unto the LORD, and said, Smite this people, I pray thee, with blindness. And he smote them with blindness according to the word of Elisha.

When the king of Syria came down against Elisha, his servant could not see the angels that were surrounding them, but Elisha could. When Elisha prayed, his servants eyes were opened and he was able to see these spiritual beings.

So, the fact one might see spiritual beings does not necessarily mean they are not right with God, or that they are dabbling in the occult.

In this story, as with the story of Balaam, it was those who were right with God who could see spiritual beings, others could not.

I am not claiming that those here who have witnessed spiritual manifestations are more right with God than others, just showing that scripture does not show that those who do see spiritual manifestations are not necessarily engaged in evil.

 

[Yeshua1]

where is this found in Scripture?

Evidently Jesus' disciples were aware there were such things as "ghosts" to think He was one. Either they had witnessed it or heard accounts of it to assume what they saw was one.

Angels could and did appear in bodily forms, ;ooking as men...

ANY demons appear that were not physically manifested thru a host body?

 

[Winman]

Angels could and did appear in bodily forms, ;ooking as men...

ANY demons appear that were not physically manifested thru a host body?

Whose body did Satan appear in when he tempted Jesus in the wilderness?

 

[DHK]

This is offensive. By your statement you are implying I am also demon possessed, righteousdude and the others on this thread with similar accounts.

And why would you assume that? I never said anything about demon-possession. As I keep saying to another poster in another forum, putting words into my mouth, or deliberate misrepresentation is as good as a lie.

 

[DHK]

Whose body did Satan appear in when he tempted Jesus in the wilderness?

A non sequitor.
You are not Jesus.

 

[DHK]

where is this found in Scripture?

Evidently Jesus' disciples were aware there were such things as "ghosts" to think He was one. Either they had witnessed it or heard accounts of it to assume what they saw was one.

You watch too much TV, or are too gullible.

There is no such thing as a ghost.
What happens to the spirit at death? If you are saved you go to be with the Lord. If you are not saved you go to hell. There is no other option. There is no such thing as a ghost. There are no dead people's spirits wandering around. To believe that is a direct denial of Scripture.

As for the passage you are referring to, the disciples were full of fear for a number of reasons. The waves were high and boisterous. They thought they could be on the verge of drowning. It was a stormy night. They see in the distance someone walking on water. It is in the distance so they can't make out who it is, but no one walks on water. The proper word is "spirit." It is what they thought they might be seeing, not that they had ever seen one before. It is their account of what might be happening to them on a stormy night when they were afraid "and seeing things." But as "this so-called spirit" draws closer they recognize that it is not a spirit at all but it is the Lord Jesus Christ. He is miraculously walking on water, something that no man can do. Peter, still partly doubting, saying if this is really what I am seeing, and if he is really the Messiah, then bid me also to walk on the water (my paraphrase). Jesus says to come, and as long as he keeps his eyes on the Lord he is able to walk on the water.

But I caution you. Don't try this today.