Originally posted by OldRegular:
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Your posts above are essentially nonsense. Form what little is understandable you appear to assert that the Body of Jesus Christ is the Church and that the Bride of Jesus Christ is Israel. If that it is your contention it is totally false.
Peter tells us Paul is hard to understand, so all I suggest is all should pay heed to Peter. Why don’t you try reading, and understanding Ephesians 3? You either agree with what Christ Jesus told Paul from heaven, or you believe someone else, and from what you write you do not believe Christ Jesus has He sits next to His Father in heaven.
If you are not in the Body of Christ, then just whose church are you in. You evidently believe the Baptist church is going to save you.
In 2 Corinthians11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. Paul is obviously talking about the Church as the Bride of Jesus Christ. In Ephesians 5 Paul talks about the Church as the Bride of Jesus Christ.
I don’t believe you quite understand what you are saying. In your first paragraph you deny we are in the Body of Christ. Now here you are saying the Church is the Bride of Jesus Christ?
Which is it? I explained to you in my previous post that we inherit Christ Jesus, and are connected to Him NOW, in the Spirit, not what you are contending is in prophecy as revealed in Revelation.
When the trump sounds, Christ Jesus will present to Himself a Church that is without blemish, and holy without spot or wrinkle, and this will be done for all the host of heaven to see. Is there marriage in Heaven? The New Jerusalem that comes down from heaven is connected with the earthly Apostles, and that equates only to God’s people. A marriage can then take place.
Your remarks from Reveletion are applicable to events that occur after the creation of the New Heavens and New earth. You also ignore that the twelve Apostles are presented as the foundations of the New Jerusalem, the Bride of Jesus Christ which is obviously the Church.
Again you fail to understand for you make the wrong assumption. There are two foundation’s built upon the foundation of Jesus Christ. You have your foundation combined, i.e. the foundation of Peter, and the foundation of Paul.
For your understanding: Romans 15:20,
”Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation”.” Paul says he will not build on Peter’s foundation. Tell me, whose foundation are you on? I Corinthians 3:10,
”According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.”
Are you building on the Pentecostal foundation of Peter, or the Christian foundation of Paul. They are both built on the foundation of Jesus Christ.
All the churches of Christianity are built on the foundation of Paul and not Peter. How many churches did Peter start? There was one, and that was in Jerusalem, for the nation of Israel. You said it above when you advise me,
”You also ignore that the twelve Apostles are presented as the foundations of the New Jerusalem.” But then you misidentify the Bride.
The Bridegroom is Jesus as shown in Matthew 9:15, and only Israel is involved, so who is His bride? Isaiah 54:5-7,
” For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. 6. For the Lord hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. 7. For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.” The Bride you refer to in prophecy of Revelation is Israel as “thee” refers to God’s people.
Dispensationalism is in its death throes because its interpretation of Scripture is false. Hyper-dispensationalism is dead because it ignores most of Scripture and interprets what little it considers falsely.
Then you are helping to personally lead people astray, not understanding the dispensation’s, for Christ Jesus gave Paul the gospel of His (Christ’s) dispensation of Grace – Ephesians 3:1-5, ”For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2. If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 3. How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4. Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5. Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit”. I don’t know how many times I have shown you this, and you still refuse to believe Christ from heaven. You are on very dangerous ground. Please turn to Christ Jesus for understanding.
Once again there is only one Gospel, the Gospel that Jesus Christ and all the Apostles including Paul preached. To contend otherwise is heretical as Paul stated in Galatians
I’ll show you three gospels, and it is up to you to believe which you believe. You’re salvation is between you and God, not you and what you have been reading, or what I say, or anyone else; Just one on one, you and God.
Do you believe Jesus on earth? Then believe this – ”The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it”, Luke 16:16. Do you believe Jesus while on the earth? There was a gospel of the law and prophets UNTIL John. Then after John there is the gospel of the “kingdom of God”. That is TWO (2) gospels. And you say they are all the same. So which of those do you believe? I’ll bet you chose the gospel of John the Baptist, which is as preached in Matthew, chapter 3:1-2, ”In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2. And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
You say there is only One gospel. What is that gospel? You evidently believe it is the above, and then you endeavor to say that is the gospel that Paul preached. Shame, shame.
Haven’t you heard of the gospel of Christ Jesus from Heaven, that dispensational gospel that Christ gave specifically to Paul? It is the gospel of Christianity, the Gospel that puts us into the Church, into the Body of Christ, and it is of Grace, through faith, with out works of repenting of our sins, and being water baptized, as was necessary for the Jews. Our repentance and remission of sins was taken care of by Jesus Christ at the Cross. You cannot find this third gospel of the Cross preached before Damascus Road.
I leave you to stew in your pathetically false doctrine [speaking kindly].
