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Do Babies go to Heaven?
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Brightfame52
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mrw
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37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
So this is limited to all the Father gives the Son.
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37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
So this is limited to all the Father gives the Son.
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37818
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No. The new birth as explained by Jesus, as found in Matthew, Mark and Luke.
Matthew 18:3, Mark 10:15 and Luke 18:17.
Brightfame52
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Dude, the rules of thread was to not bring up election in it. As far as I understand the idea.
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Brightfame52
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I didnt see that rule, so I will no longer participate, (snip)
Admin Note: feel free to discuss election - on this subject -
All you need to do is start a new thread!
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What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. PS 8:4,5
Adam and every person born of woman.
Why?
Because, the death, was here on the earth awaiting him. The power of the devil. What was God going to do about the devil and his power, the death?
Let's start by creating man, of the flesh, weaking the law relative to the righteousness of God. Thou shall not eat of it.
Salvation is the means of the destruction of the devil and his power of him, the death.
that which hath been born of the flesh is flesh, and that which hath been born of the Spirit is spirit. 'Thou mayest not wonder that I said to thee, It behoveth you to be born from above; John 3:6,7
1 minute old or 100 years old, Ye must be born from above.
IMHO
Adam was going to bring, the death, to mankind for the purpuse of God.
The Lamb slain before/from the foundation of the world. The promise of God who cannot lie made before the beginning of time; The Hope of Eternal Life
The Lamb slain before/from the foundation of the world.
and to Abraham were the promises spoken, and to his seed; He doth not say, 'And to seeds,' as of many, but as of one, 'And to thy seed,' which is Christ;
Why, then, the law? on account of the transgressions it was added, till the seed might come to which the promise hath been made, having been set in order through messengers in the hand of a mediator -- and the mediator is not of one, and God is one -- the law, then, is against the promises of God? -- let it not be! for if a law was given that was able to make alive, truly by law there would have been the righteousness,
Life, eternal, comes by promise, through, Christ.
He died just as Adam and Abraham did yet He received the promise of God being made alive again out of, the death.
BTW David and his son are still dead awaiting being made alive again out of the death.
Acts 2:29 'Men, brethren! it is permitted to speak with freedom unto you concerning the patriarch David, that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is among us unto this day;
Adam and every person born of woman.
Why?
Because, the death, was here on the earth awaiting him. The power of the devil. What was God going to do about the devil and his power, the death?
Let's start by creating man, of the flesh, weaking the law relative to the righteousness of God. Thou shall not eat of it.
Salvation is the means of the destruction of the devil and his power of him, the death.
that which hath been born of the flesh is flesh, and that which hath been born of the Spirit is spirit. 'Thou mayest not wonder that I said to thee, It behoveth you to be born from above; John 3:6,7
1 minute old or 100 years old, Ye must be born from above.
IMHO
Adam was going to bring, the death, to mankind for the purpuse of God.
The Lamb slain before/from the foundation of the world. The promise of God who cannot lie made before the beginning of time; The Hope of Eternal Life
The Lamb slain before/from the foundation of the world.
and to Abraham were the promises spoken, and to his seed; He doth not say, 'And to seeds,' as of many, but as of one, 'And to thy seed,' which is Christ;
Why, then, the law? on account of the transgressions it was added, till the seed might come to which the promise hath been made, having been set in order through messengers in the hand of a mediator -- and the mediator is not of one, and God is one -- the law, then, is against the promises of God? -- let it not be! for if a law was given that was able to make alive, truly by law there would have been the righteousness,
Life, eternal, comes by promise, through, Christ.
He died just as Adam and Abraham did yet He received the promise of God being made alive again out of, the death.
BTW David and his son are still dead awaiting being made alive again out of the death.
Acts 2:29 'Men, brethren! it is permitted to speak with freedom unto you concerning the patriarch David, that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is among us unto this day;
atpollard
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Who says they are not redeemed? Romans 9:15-16 … right?
(not C&A … Corrie Ten Boon: “God does as He pleases and He does it right well.”)
Brightfame52
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So do you believe little children go to heaven without being redeemed by the blood of Christ ?
atpollard
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Do you believe that the blood of Jesus is insufficient to redeem those ‘little children’ in heaven for whom He died?
Brightfame52
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No, why you ask me that ? Christ Blood redeemed all for whom it was shed, regardless of age. Do you believe babies need to be redeemed from sin like everyone else redeemed by the blood ?
Do newborn babies go to heaven?
As a Catholic, I believe that God is clear in Scripture that He welcomes into heaven each baby who dies, born or unborn (Ps 139). And this extends to young children and the mentally disabled who die before they are able to understand salvation.
The Catechism (CCC 1261) also reminds us that we entrust our children who have died to the mercy of God. Indeed, we have funeral rites specifically for children. We are reminded that the great mercy of God desires that all men be saved.
As a Catholic, I believe that God is clear in Scripture that He welcomes into heaven each baby who dies, born or unborn (Ps 139). And this extends to young children and the mentally disabled who die before they are able to understand salvation.
The Catechism (CCC 1261) also reminds us that we entrust our children who have died to the mercy of God. Indeed, we have funeral rites specifically for children. We are reminded that the great mercy of God desires that all men be saved.
Brightfame52
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So you believe they get in apart from the blood and righteousness of Christ ?Do newborn babies go to heaven?
As a Catholic, I believe that God is clear in Scripture that He welcomes into heaven each baby who dies, born or unborn (Ps 139). And this extends to young children and the mentally disabled who die before they are able to understand salvation.
The Catechism (CCC 1261) also reminds us that we entrust our children who have died to the mercy of God. Indeed, we have funeral rites specifically for children. We are reminded that the great mercy of God desires that all men be saved.
No one attains heaven apart from the blood and righteousness of Christ. We entrust our children who have died to the mercy of God
RighteousnessTemperance&
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The problem with this sort of speculation is that it can lead to the encouragement of, or even participation in, unholy acts.
I recall reading on a board where an atheist inquired into a logical conclusion and was summarily dismissed. His line of inquiry was right, and the Christians dead wrong.
What we know for certain is that God will judge rightly, and thank God for that. “One greater than Solomon is here” (see Luke 11:31).
I recall reading on a board where an atheist inquired into a logical conclusion and was summarily dismissed. His line of inquiry was right, and the Christians dead wrong.
What we know for certain is that God will judge rightly, and thank God for that. “One greater than Solomon is here” (see Luke 11:31).
The age of reason was generally considered to be 7 years old in catholic circles. Perhaps in Lutheran, Anglican circles as well, not sure.