Here's what I'm talking about.....
When you say there's not two natures, but there are two men....
What do you mean by "nature" ?
What do you mean by "man" ?
Are these ontological? Maybe two souls or two spirits? Or are you thinking they mean inclinations? Or two personalities? Two what ??
I ask this because it seems as though people use the word nature in different ways depending on whether they are talking about men or Christ. Men supposedly have two natures, described as sin nature and righteous nature. But concerning Christ the two natures are supposedly human and divine - whatever that means.
Then you add "men" in lieu of nature, and delineate between the two....
Spell it out to where there's no misunderstanding. I think I disagree, but I can't tell because of the mystical use of what I consider to be ontological language
I asked you pointedly - are you thinking in ontological terms?Rather at the new birth, there does not come to exist two natures, but rather two men, the "new man" (also referred in scripture as the "inner man") which spirit is born from the Holy Spirit (just like the Holy Ghost came upon Mary and Christ was born ), but the child of God still has the "old man "(also referred to in scripture by numerous names such as "the outward man" and "the flesh") which is born after flesh from our earthly father Adam, unlike the new man that is born after the Spirit from our Father Jesus Christ, As Jesus said, "6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." (John 3:6). There is a warfare and it is between the "inward man" and "the outward man", two men, not two natures. Scripture does not speak of us as having two natures
When you say there's not two natures, but there are two men....
What do you mean by "nature" ?
What do you mean by "man" ?
Are these ontological? Maybe two souls or two spirits? Or are you thinking they mean inclinations? Or two personalities? Two what ??
I ask this because it seems as though people use the word nature in different ways depending on whether they are talking about men or Christ. Men supposedly have two natures, described as sin nature and righteous nature. But concerning Christ the two natures are supposedly human and divine - whatever that means.
Then you add "men" in lieu of nature, and delineate between the two....
Spell it out to where there's no misunderstanding. I think I disagree, but I can't tell because of the mystical use of what I consider to be ontological language