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Does God allow Divorce Today?

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1689Dave

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Yeshua1 said:
God disagrees with you on that, as he stated to paul the left behind is free to remarry now if they so choose, just marry a Christian!
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This is wishful thinking. “A wife is bound as long as her husband is living. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes (only someone in the Lord).” (1 Corinthians 7:39) (NET)
 
1689Dave

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InTheLight said:
No one has said this!



No you haven't. You've added your own words to scripture in a pathetic attempt to "prove" your position.


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“for it is written, “You shall be holy, because I am holy.”” (1 Peter 1:16) (NET)
 
1689Dave

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There you go again with your evasion tactics of changing the direction of the thread with an off the wall question.
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So if we must repent to be forgiven, this would include separating from an adulterous marriage? Or an abortionist stopping abortion? etc?
 
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There is a sex trafficking case currently in the news. If a sex-slave gets saved, would she loose her salvation because her circumstances prevented her from leaving her "job"?
If a prostitute were to get saved, do you believe that the Holy Spirit is capable of changing the desire of her heart so she would want to do some other "job"?
To answer directly, yes ... God will forgive her while she keeps her job and God will continue to work on her heart to change it so that soon she will want to quit that job. I was saved while entangled in criminal activities and God still honored my salvation while an arsonist and a drug smuggler. "God loves us just as we are, but he loves us too much to leave us there." I can testify to the truth of that statement.


You have not proven that a marriage between a believer and an unbeliever is a covenant marriage with God. As I have explained Paul indicates otherwise. Until you refute that with more than opinion and fiat, there is no evidence that there is adultery.

In those cases where there is 'adultery' (per Jesus statements), there is no evidence that God cannot forgive a believer who obeys the command to confess the sin. Once forgiven, the sin of divorce and the ongoing adultery are "under the blood of Jesus" and "remembered no more" and "as far as the East is from the West". You have given no evidence from scripture that this sin is UNFORGIVABLE.
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This is like someone who the Lord saves, and yet still struggles to resist porn or drinking or drugs, are they lost until they fully overcome those addictions then?
And jesus stated to us the ONLY unpardonable sin would be to Blaspheme the Holy Spirit, and that would seem to be continual rejection of jesus to save you!
 
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1689Dave said:
Are you saying holiness and righteousness are optional in the Christian life?
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No, just that we all will still ahve sin to deal with until we die, or get raptured! Different maturity levels, as newly saved not expected to be walking as they ought as well as those who have been saved now for years!
 
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atpollard said:
There is a sex trafficking case currently in the news. If a sex-slave gets saved, would she loose her salvation because her circumstances prevented her from leaving her "job"?
If a prostitute were to get saved, do you believe that the Holy Spirit is capable of changing the desire of her heart so she would want to do some other "job"?
To answer directly, yes ... God will forgive her while she keeps her job and God will continue to work on her heart to change it so that soon she will want to quit that job. I was saved while entangled in criminal activities and God still honored my salvation while an arsonist and a drug smuggler. "God loves us just as we are, but he loves us too much to leave us there." I can testify to the truth of that statement.


You have not proven that a marriage between a believer and an unbeliever is a covenant marriage with God. As I have explained Paul indicates otherwise. Until you refute that with more than opinion and fiat, there is no evidence that there is adultery.

In those cases where there is 'adultery' (per Jesus statements), there is no evidence that God cannot forgive a believer who obeys the command to confess the sin. Once forgiven, the sin of divorce and the ongoing adultery are "under the blood of Jesus" and "remembered no more" and "as far as the East is from the West". You have given no evidence from scripture that this sin is UNFORGIVABLE.
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Jesus told the woman taken in adultery to go and sin no more.
 
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1689Dave said:
So if we must repent to be forgiven, this would include separating from an adulterous marriage? Or an abortionist stopping abortion? etc?
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Or someone is alcoholic ever taste beer again, period? Someone addicted to porn is saved, but reading another playboy undoes that?
 
1689Dave

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No, just that we all will still ahve sin to deal with until we die, or get raptured! Different maturity levels, as newly saved not expected to be walking as they ought as well as those who have been saved now for years!
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Do we have sins that we mollycoddle? Or do we have sins we repent of?
 
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1689Dave said:
So if we must repent to be forgiven
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Generally speaking, this is known as the begging the question fallacy.

This is also known as a works based method of attempting to obtain God's grace.

this would include separating from an adulterous marriage? Or an abortionist stopping abortion? etc?
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I would certainly hope that a person seeking forgiveness of these activities would cease doing them.


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1689Dave

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Yeshua1 said:
Or someone is alcoholic ever taste beer again, period? Someone addicted to porn is saved, but reading another playboy undoes that?
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How do you repent from sin if you do not repent from it? But nurse it along trying to be lukewarm?
 
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That is due to us still having sin natures, that principle of sin in us even after saved that wants to disobey God.
 
1689Dave

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InTheLight said:
Generally speaking, this is known as the begging the question fallacy.

This is also known as a works based method of achieving God's grace.



I would certainly hope that a person seeking forgiveness of these activities would cease doing them.


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If Jesus saved us from our sins, it includes sanctification and holiness. And if this does not exists, he didn't save you from your sins. You only think he did.
 
1689Dave

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That is due to us still having sin natures, that principle of sin in us even after saved that wants to disobey God.
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No, it is called flesh battling the Spirit. And you cannot make excuses for indulging the flesh and expect to overcome it at the same time.
 
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