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Does God love all?

Eliyahu

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standingfirminChrist said:
great post, webdog! God is not going to do that which He commands us not to do.

God is not a hypocrite either ! I would remember He commanded us to love even our enemy
 

Amy.G

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webdog said:
God's killing was just. Murder is not "just" killing. Apples and oranges.
That's the point.

SFIC said:
Originally Posted by standingfirminChrist
great post, webdog! God is not going to do that which He commands us not to do.

But God does do what He commands us not to do.

He can do that because He is God and we're not.
 

Eliyahu

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Amy.G said:
This is one of the many verses that I could not grasp as a non-cal.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Is He concerned about " Any should perish" despite all means the Elect? Unbelievers don't have to repent?

If God is not willing that any should perish, why do any perish?

You exposed a great misunderstanding here. Do you know there are many things that the Almighty God cannot do?
Even though God wills anyone should not perish, there are many who perish against the Will of God ! Why does it happen? Because the coercion of the faith unto the people is not the method of God's working. God doesn't torture the people to believe in Jesus ! If the Free will of the people reject the Offer of God, then they will surely perish against the Will of God. Otherwise, if God force the people to believe Jesus, the Realm of God will not be expanded. Read Heb 5:7-9, Was Jesus imperfect before Cross? But He became perfect by obedience though He was Almighty before ! What does this mean? He became perfect after the Cross, including the Believers. God didn't stop Eve when she tried to pick up the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, why didn't the Almighty God stop or block her at that time? Then does He blame the billions of people and send them to the Hell? There are many things that the Almighty God CANNOT Do! because of His nature, His manner of management.
Is God's will not done? God's will is that all should come to repentance, yet not all come.
Why do we have to pray that Thy will shall be done? His Will cannot be done sometimes ! though He is Almighty God ! because human beings reject what Jesus offered.

Or do they? I believe the "all" in this verse refers to "all" those whose names are written in the Lambs book of life. The "all" that the Father draws. The "all" that will come because they have been drawn by the Father.
We have to check the contexts, but in most cases ALL means ALL in connection with the Salvation.

The important thing is that there are many things which cannot be done by ALmighty God because of His nature, His personality, His Truth, His Style of Management and Plan.
 
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webdog

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Amy.G said:
That's the point.

SFIC said:


But God does do what He commands us not to do.

He can do that because He is God and we're not.
I'm not following. He commands us not to murder, and God Himself does not murder. We are commanded to justly execute people, as God does.
 

webdog

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larryjf said:
I actually cringed when i read this.
It is not His Law that is righteousness, but God Himself is.
...and His Law is righteousness since it comes from Him...so what is your point? You believe He violates His own Law :confused:
 
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webdog said:
I'm not following. He commands us not to murder, and God Himself does not murder. We are commanded to justly execute people, as God does.
Great post, webdog!

Some just can't understand the simplicity of the Gospel because of being ingrained with false teachings from preachers who don't study to show themselves approved unto God.
 

larryjf

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standingfirminChrist said:
Great post, webdog!

Some just can't understand the simplicity of the Gospel because of being ingrained with false teachings from preachers who don't study to show themselves approved unto God.
wow! you not only mischaracterize the Scripture, but you also mischaracterize Calvinists. They are some of the most serious students of Scripture.
 

webdog

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larryjf said:
wow! you not only mischaracterize the Scripture, but you also mischaracterize Calvinists. They are some of the most serious students of Scripture.
...and laziest when it comes to some of the more difficult texts. It's lazy, IMO, and easy to just confine God into a nicely packaged box of how He is supposed to be. Fact is the Bible teaches God's sovereignty, election, and man's free agency (and with no "wink, wink" after free agency).
 
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Eliyahu

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I want to kindly advise everyone to think about the fundamental truth behind this issue - that The Almighty, Omnipotent God cannot do some things, because of His nature, of His attributes, of His loving kindness, of His style of Operating the world and universe.

Do you know 10 Attributes of God? ( some say 13 attributes)

Read Exodus 34:6-10

Especially verse 7 is interesting.

God is forgiving inequity and transgression, but not without punishing and taking it away.


Many people misunderstand that God can do anything as He wants.
 
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