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Does the Bible teach Original Sin?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Humble Disciple, Aug 2, 2021.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Paul very clear that all are either in the guilt and judgement of Adam, or under salvation and grace of Jesus, Federal Headship!
     
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    It's kind of sad when people who claim to be Baptists are ignorant of their own history and have more in common with the persecutors and killers of the Anabaptists than with what the Anabaptists actually taught.
     
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    I am FAR most into what scriptures say on this issue, not what any man stated who was not inspired!
     
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    Prove it know it all
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    prove it or forever be known as a JW
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    it is not in scripture LOL
     
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    Eastern Orthodox Christians have never taught the Augustian doctrine of original sin, and many Eastern Orthodox Christians don't regard Augustine as a saint because of it. They instead refer to him as "Blessed Augustine," but not Saint Augustine.

     
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    It's kind of strange when Baptists, who reject the Catholic doctrine of baptismal regeneration, insist upon the Catholic doctrine of original sin on which it hinges.
     
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    Are we born with sin natures or innocent ones?
     
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    Paul based his entire compare and contrast between firest and second Adam on this!
     
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    They also have a faulty Gospel, as does Rome!
     
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    Biblical "original sin" is not being guilty for Adam's guilt. (Deuteronomy 24:16)
     
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    Rather than this line of questioning, perhaps it would help if you provided @Humble Disciple the verse stating that all sinned in Adam. That way he could address the actual text of Scripture rather than what would otherwise be opinion.

    (Just a suggestion - but I've found dealing with the text of Scripture best when debating the Christian faith).

    While it does not actually state all sinned in Adam, Romans 5:19 may be a good discussion as well.
     
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    We all have the nature to sin. However until we do we are innocent
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    So when children willing sin, do what they want, not accountable to God?
    When babies act and are selfish, not accountable to God?
     
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    Full blown pel heresy?
     
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    A denial of biblical truth once again.
     
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    It is no surprise that those who do not grasp the grace of God often have flawed and defective views of the fall into sin and death.
    This is one of the most basic errors in theology, rivaled closely by a false view of scripture, or deity.
    No surprise,drifting from Finney to gnostics, to open theists.
     
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