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Does the Board have its share of Christian Bullies?

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righteousdude2

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Wade only give half truths?

How about some quotes from our OP? Maybe he should practice what he preaches?

This is all from just the last 4 days!
CAUSE AND EFFECT!

For every response noted in the shrewd copy and paste job Matty forgot to include the reason for the sharp comments given by myself to him and others.

Matty me boy, you must work in the media business? If you're not working for CNN, you really should be, as you only report what you want in order to make your side seem more righteous.

The "horses patoot" comment came about due to your rude remark to me, and I quote: "Don't hold it against him. These things tend to happen as you become more and more senile."
 
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evangelist6589

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I think that there are a great number of folks on this board who intentionally or simply out of ignorance, use bullying tactics to degrade, threaten, demean, embarrass, humiliate, insult, mock, attack, and disparage their brother's and sister's threads or comments. And what is worse: they claim to be doing it in the name "debating!" Surely it is not debating. Rather it is breaking the rules of the board, as they resort to harassment, being rude, and provoking anger in order to fight.

Of course, the witness of this board in the world looking in on us is one of horrors. We have a very poor witness when we succumb to the anger laced vitriol laced comments being submitted (and I am no better than the worst of these) to others whom we may disagree with, often, bitterly.

The problem is, debates do not exist to rip apart opposing views and the holder of those views. In fact, debating is defined as: de·bate /dəˈbāt/
(noun) - a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.

And what's even more disconcerning about attitudes on this board over the last year or more is that those who exist only to cause mental anquish to the holder of an opposing view is that their spirit and heart fail to meat scripture that exhorts how to treat one another.

Romans 2:1-29 (ESV) - "Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed."

Romans 2:1 (ESV) - "Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things."

Mark 12:31 (ESV) - "The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (if this is how you love yourself, so be it, but you must have a poor selfesteem going on in that heart of hearts?)’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

Isaiah 54:15-17 (ESV) - "If anyone stirs up strife, it is not from me; whoever stirs up strife with you shall fall because of you. Behold, I have created the smith who blows the fire of coals and produces a weapon for its purpose. I have also created the ravager to destroy; no weapon that is fashioned against you shall succeed, and you shall confute every tongue that rises against you in judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord and their vindication from me, declares the Lord.”

FINALLY: Let me close with a quote from Jean F Larroux. His words say an awful lot in a little space:

"If the biggest sinner you know isn't yourself,
then you don't know yourself very well."


Oh yes there are bullies here and they come in the form as non-Cal and Calvinist. I have been bullied and harassed numerous times, and even some of them have been Calvinist! These type I agree with their theology but hate their attitude.
 

evangelist6589

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Yes I have, and it is very likely to occur again.

Relational Evangelism
God’s message of forgiveness through Christ is most effectively conveyed within the context of personal relationships. In whom are you investing?

I bet this church would hate me. Open air preacher, tract evangelist, and a Calvinist. But you list the essentials of the faith so I would not write such a church a letter regardless of our differences in secondary issues.
 

quantumfaith

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God’s message of forgiveness through Christ is most effectively conveyed within the context of personal relationships. In whom are you investing?

I bet this church would hate me. Open air preacher, tract evangelist, and a Calvinist. But you list the essentials of the faith so I would not write such a church a letter regardless of our differences in secondary issues.

Multitudes of people, and I venture to say MOST people would never be reached or inspired by the message of street preachers. Some....yes.....but my guess is that if valid numbers and statistics were available it would be VERY small. The same goes for tract evangelism.
 

evangelist6589

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Multitudes of people, and I venture to say MOST people would never be reached or inspired by the message of street preachers. Some....yes.....but my guess is that if valid numbers and statistics were available it would be VERY small. The same goes for tract evangelism.

God draws the elect to salvation and opens the hearts of those whom he grants faith and repentance. The PROBLEM with friendship evangelism is that it delays and undermines its message of repentance and the coming judgment. Its also not found in the book of Acts as the dominant philosophy is open air preaching, as the apostles were commanded to go preach in the temple courts. How many times do you think they would have been persecuted if they had a friendship evangelism method?

When I preach, pass out tracts, write letters, or speak with people I trust in the sovereignty of God in salvation and I evangelize only for the glory of God.
 

quantumfaith

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God draws the elect to salvation and opens the hearts of those whom he grants faith and repentance. The PROBLEM with friendship evangelism is that it delays and undermines its message of repentance and the coming judgment. Its also not found in the book of Acts as the dominant philosophy is open air preaching, as the apostles were commanded to go preach in the temple courts. How many times do you think they would have been persecuted if they had a friendship evangelism method?

When I preach, pas out tracts, write letters, or speak with people I trust in the sovereignty of God in salvation and I evangelize only for the glory of God. You and me will not agree on this because I am a Calvinist and you are not.

Yeah, well you and I disagree theologically here. Our concept of the "elect" is different.
 

evangelist6589

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Yeah, well you and I disagree theologically here. Our concept of the "elect" is different.

No question about it. But I have the edge because I have scripture and the book of Acts which you do not have. I also have Mark 16:15 which does not teach friendship evangelism. Besides the scripture I also read books by both philosophies, do you? Yes I have friendship evangelism, lifestyle evangelism, and Biblical evangelism books in my library. I just find more support from the Bible in the later philosophy.

That said on the job is the best place to practice friendship evangelism, however no one ever comes to Christ that way unless the word is preached via a conversation or gospel tract.
 

quantumfaith

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No question about it. But I have the edge because I have scripture and the book of Acts which you do not have. I also have Mark 16:15 which does not teach friendship evangelism. Besides the scripture I also read books by both philosophies, do you? Yes I have friendship evangelism, lifestyle evangelism, and Biblical evangelism books in my library. I just find more support from the Bible in the later philosophy.

That said on the job is the best place to practice friendship evangelism, however no one ever comes to Christ that way unless the word is preached via a conversation or gospel tract.

Well you just keep to your view on the teaching of scripture, reading your books and especially reminding everyone else how wrong they are about things and how correct you are.
 

evangelist6589

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Well you just keep to your view on the teaching of scripture, reading your books and especially reminding everyone else how wrong they are about things and how correct you are.

Its really not about me, its about the Bible and what it teaches. I opened a thread in the CAL vs. Armin board more relevant to this topic as this conversation belongs over there.
 

righteousdude2

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Oh yes there are bullies here and they come in the form as non-Cal and Calvinist. I have been bullied and harassed numerous times, and even some of them have been Calvinist! These type I agree with their theology but hate their attitude.

And do you know what's sad? Some on this board have the same sin found in Rev. 3:1 where Jesus said Sardis had a reputation of being alive for God, but their deeds were often wicked and that showed them more dead than alive. :tear:

Still, there are some wonderful people here, and the message to Sardis was meant for its leaders to affect change. We can only pray that the board return to its first love, and live like their name suggests: a church living for the Lord!
 

Rolfe

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People need to lighten up.

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I am surprised that this thread is still open.
 

evangelist6589

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People need to lighten up.

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I am surprised that this thread is still open.

You are an example of a Bully so I got pics for you.

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Rolf sometimes some of us want you to either run out of here like the Jack Rabbit or change your attitude. Which will it be?
 

JonC

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You mean bullies that try to shut people up by posting pictures of rabbits? :laugh: Or the ones who find the practice childish?:(

Seriously, though...they need to restrict the size of pictures that we can post. This is getting ridiculous....except the puppy...I liked the puppy.
 

T Alan

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You mean bullies that try to shut people up by posting pictures of rabbits? :laugh: Or the ones who find the practice childish?:(

Seriously, though...they need to restrict the size of pictures that we can post. This is getting ridiculous.

He is able to post that "Wall Murial" AND I can't even get a small picture to "Upload" to a post. go figure.
 

Rolfe

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You are an example of a Bully so I got pics for you.

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Rolf sometimes some of us want you to either run out of here like the Jack Rabbit or change your attitude. Which will it be?

Any questions posed to you about the wisdom or the practicality of particular choices that you have made have been out of Christian brotherly concern. That is not bullying. Were I trying to embarrass or intimidate you, it would be. There is a difference.

I ought to be saddened or offended that you hold me in such low esteem, but I was young and headstrong once too. ;)

You ought not ask others for advice if you are unwilling to accept it in he spirit that is is given.
 
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