Dr. Phil warns about dire health consequences of shutdown

[Benjamin]

Actually, a recent study is suggesting we likely already have 10s of millions infected.

Delusion and wishful thinking controls your every thought in this matter! Anti-body tests came out about 3 days ago and haven't even begun to prove such a thing. The COVIDIOTS have been claiming 10s of millions of asymptomatic were already infected to discount the seriousness of this disease before people even started showing up to the hospitals - AS IF SOMEHOW MAGICALLY IT WAS SPREADING UNNOTICED MAKING ALL THESE ASYMPTOMATICS.

We're finding antibodies all over the place.

 

[Benjamin]

...the ones denying ACTUAL reality that the virus is not nearly as bad as these alarmists are making it out to be.

 

[Benjamin]

You actually don't know that.

You actually are in denial.

 

[Calminian]

Delusion and wishful thinking controls your every thought in this matter! Anti-body tests came out about 3 days ago and haven't even begun to prove such a thing. The COVIDIOTS have been claiming 10s of millions of asymptomatic were already infected to discount the seriousness of this disease before people even started showing up to the hospitals - AS IF SOMEHOW MAGICALLY IT WAS SPREADING UNNOTICED MAKING ALL THESE ASYMPTOMATICS.

I think you're going to need a lot of therapy when this is over. You need it now, but probably not available.

 

[Benjamin]

I think you're going to need a lot of therapy when this is over. You need it now, but probably not available.

I think you are like arguing with a spoiled child. You clearly can't answer the argument against your false claim so you resort to fallacious Ad Hominem, ...because that's all you got. You are a waste of time to reason with.

 

[InTheLight]

Preliminary In-Season 2019-2020 Flu Burden Estimates

Yep. Click on the down arrow and access the Past Seasons data page.

Deaths by flu.
2010-2011: 37,000
2011-2012: 12,000
2012-2013: 43,000
2013-2014: 38,000
2014-2015: 51,000
2015-2016: 23,000
2016-2017: 38,000
2017-2018: 61,000 est.
2018-2019: 34,157 est.

So far, in six weeks, deaths from Covid-19 has surpassed 6 of the past 9 flu seasons. By Sunday it will be 7 of 9. A week from now it will be 8 of 9.

But keep telling yourself this is just like a regular flu.




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[Calminian]

...you are like arguing with a spoiled child....you resort to fallacious Ad Hominem .....

You mean like "spoiled child"? Thanks for the insight.

 

[Reformed1689]

Yep. Click on the down arrow and access the Past Seasons data page.

Deaths by flu.
2010-2011: 37,000
2011-2012: 12,000
2012-2013: 43,000
2013-2014: 38,000
2014-2015: 51,000
2015-2016: 23,000
2016-2017: 38,000
2017-2018: 61,000 est.
2018-2019: 34,157 est.

So far, in six weeks, deaths from Covid-19 has surpassed 6 of the past 9 flu seasons. By Sunday it will be 7 of 9. A week from now it will be 8 of 9.

But keep telling yourself this is just like a regular flu.




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Stop acting like you are comparing apples to apples. Compare it to 1918.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Even if I’m not fully on board, he’s making a fair contrast worth considering here. We put up with tens and hundreds of thousands of people dying from auto wrecks, from cigarette smoking, from swimming pools accidents (his number was way off here), and say ‘que sera, sera,’ when we could simply outlaw those things and prevent them entirely. But a nasty little virus comes along and possibly threatens a similar number and we all of a sudden practically shut down the entire country?

The further point is that just the health consequences due to inactivity, unemployment, poverty, and depression will surely lead to even more deaths, including just the kind we’re seeing now, as those in poorer health are more vulnerable to this virus, to the flu, and to other diseases. Inevitably, more people will practice more of the things that decrease health and life expectancy.

Nearly half a million die from cigarette smoking each year. This year, how many of those deaths will be attributed to COVID-19 instead? I'd really like to know, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[InTheLight]

Stop acting like you are comparing apples to apples. Compare it to 1918.

Yeah, the "it's just the regular flu" of 1918.

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[Reformed1689]

Yeah, the "it's just the regular flu" of 1918.

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The Spanish Flu is still around.... Look we get it, you are scared to death of this virus and want everyone to stay locked down. My goodness your profile pic has a facemask on (which doesn't keep you from getting the virus). It's all nonsense.

 

[Scott Downey]

Delusion and wishful thinking controls your every thought in this matter! Anti-body tests came out about 3 days ago and haven't even begun to prove such a thing. The COVIDIOTS have been claiming 10s of millions of asymptomatic were already infected to discount the seriousness of this disease before people even started showing up to the hospitals - AS IF SOMEHOW MAGICALLY IT WAS SPREADING UNNOTICED MAKING ALL THESE ASYMPTOMATICS.

It was not unnoticed, the doctors thought it was the flu. It has been circulating out in western states from December last year. Many people got it and got over it fine. No doubt some nursing home deaths were recorded as being flu before covid got identified as the cause. It is entirely possible a hundred million people had it and recovered already. Antibody testing will confirm this, my guess it will take a while to do that confirmation of who was sick from covid and never knew it.

 

[InTheLight]

The Spanish Flu is still around.... Look we get it, you are scared to death of this virus and want everyone to stay locked down. My goodness your profile pic has a facemask on (which doesn't keep you from getting the virus). It's all nonsense.

I'm not "scared to death" of the virus. I go out every day as part of my job (except Sundays). I interact with people. I don't wear a mask. When I go to the grocery store I wear blue latex gloves, because I have a supply of them. I don't wear them anywhere else I go. I changed my avatar picture as a statement on current conditions.

What I object to is dumb statements like, "it's just like the regular flu". Or, "X number of people die in car accidents, let's just accept that X number of people are going to die of Covid-19".

 

[InTheLight]

Again, the average flu season kills 25,000 Americans in a year. COVID-19 has killed 33,000 in six weeks. [update: 34,575, up from 33,000 since yesterday. But, it's just another flu, right?]

Total deaths now over 37,000 in the U.S., up from 34,575 in less than 24 hours.

 

[Calminian]

Total deaths now over 37,000 in the U.S., up from 34,575 in less than 24 hours.

Do you a source on this? There is number revising going on, where they are adding deaths from other causes to be suspected of CV19. This is causing some drastic jumps in the numbers toward the end of this.

THEY'RE PADDING THE NUMBERS: Michigan Begins Dumping Extra "Presumed Cases" to their Coronavirus Death Totals Like New York Did

We'll know for sure when if find out deaths due to heart attack, stroke, pneumonia, cancer, etc show a drastic reduction during that time.

 

[InTheLight]

Do you a source on this?

Home page of Foxnews.com, right column.

www.foxnews.com

 

[InTheLight]

Here is worldometers.info

 

[Calminian]

I was asking if you had info about the sudden jump. It sounds like number revisions going on recently.

 

[InTheLight]

I was asking if you had info about the sudden jump. It sounds like number revisions going on recently.

I simply took the number that foxnews.com had yesterday and subtracted it from the number they have today = 2,425 in less than 24 hours.

That number on foxnews.com is updated several times a day.

 

[Calminian]

I simply took the number that foxnews.com had yesterday and subtracted it from the number they have today = 2,425 in less than 24 hours.

That number on foxnews.com is updated several times a day.

That's fine, just asking. These correlate with the article I cited.