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Drinking an alcoholic beverage could land you a job!

evangelist6589

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They generally do not. Most employers will ask questions pertaining to food or coffee once the person is hired and they are having food brought in for everyone. They ask if anyone has any food restrictions or if they cannot eat certain things for relifgious reasons.

It's illegal for a potential employer, with the exception being a church, to ask you "religious stuff" during an interview.

Well I had religion brought up on me twice this week. Monday interviewer mentioned my attending Bob Jones and he said what he thought about BJU and their legalism. Then the interviewer today brought up religion. At first he said I was "overqualified" for the job and thought I might be one to be arrogant and all. However he said that once he saw my "christian background" he decided to call me in for a interview. It may be illegal but it happens everyday!
 

evangelist6589

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You are still being vague, why can't you tell us what the job is? What does it mean they distribute documents and files? What are in those documents and files? Military secrets? The recipe for Banana Pudding?

Why are you being so secretive? You come on here and tell us you might have a job, you might have to fly, you might have to tolerate partying, what kind of business is this?

As usual you are looking for a way to criticize me.
 

Winman

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I would never work for a beer distribution center again and that was not what this job was about. I am not sure of Winman's motives, but maybe he thinks I am trying to work for a beer factory of which I am not.

I haven't suggested any such thing. Why don't you simply tell us what this company distributes?

I followed your thread where you got fired for "over-performance" and I don't know what you did there either. I have never heard of anybody getting fired for over-performance.

You come on here and talk about your personal life, well, we are listening. Tell us what kind of job this is, quit being so secretive.
 

evangelist6589

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I haven't suggested any such thing. Why don't you simply tell us what this company distributes?

I followed your thread where you got fired for "over-performance" and I don't know what you did there either. I have never heard of anybody getting fired for over-performance.

You come on here and talk about your personal life, well, we are listening. Tell us what kind of job this is, quit being so secretive.

Actually I was not a good fit for that last job. Just because you have not heard of it does not mean it does not exist. Its a big marketplace and you probably do not read career books, nor are you involved in the job market so one cant fully trust what you say.

I do not know why that the company does (which they did not fully disclose to me) is important to you. You want me to tell every company secret of which I do not know, nor would I disclose.
 

Zaac

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Where you at the interview?

Calm down boy. :laugh: I'm just saying it's unusual for folks to go to an interview and just start volunteering that much information and not condemning someone just because they say there will be trips and people will be drinking.

It's corporate America. It's a given if there is a trip or a get together and you're not Chick-fil-a, there will be some people drinking.

May I ask how old you are? Have you interviewed much? I only ask because back when you mentioned your job search before, I remember thinking that you said some things that made me think you might need to brush up on what to say and not say during an interview.

Some employers want to get into one's personal life and business to see if they are a good fit. Check out the book 48 Days to the work you love. Companies usually want to hire the WHOLE person and sometimes need to know what they are other than their performance.

Did they ask you if you would drink on the trips with everyone, or did you just feel the need to let them know that you wouldn't condem them or get drunk but would drink Mike's hard lemonade. People just don't say things like that during an interview unless they are specificaly asked.

A 90 minute interview is long and it was with 2 people. No one is perfect and I tried to be as honest as I could about my work ethics. However this employer seemed to be more interested in my reliability, dependability, and my personality more so than my experience and skills.

But that's the thing, You can be personable without telling every intimate detail of your personal belief system.

They say there will be trips and people will drink? Shake your head , say okay and keep the conversation moving unless they specifically ask.

I had a interview Monday and alcohol never came up. The employer was just interested in my skill-set, experience, and ethics. He did not care about my personality, nor my interests.

Usually the case.
 

JonC

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What sort of job is this job?
What do they distribute? Why are you being so vague?
Why are you being so secretive? You come on here and tell us you might have a job, you might have to fly, you might have to tolerate partying, what kind of business is this?
Tell us what kind of job this is, quit being so secretive.

Don’t tell him, make him wonder. Pretend he’s your next potential employer and you’re tempted to talk about drinking. :laugh:
 

Jerome

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerdooley/2012/07/30/alcohol-dumb/

Put yourself in this situation: you are interviewing for a job, and you’re having dinner with the executive you’ll report to and her boss. The waiter arrives at the table to take the drink order, and your hosts turn to you to lead things off. Do you impress them by ordering the excellent but reasonably priced Cabernet Sauvignon you spotted on the wine list, or settle for a soft drink?

Most of us would tend to opt for the wine, fearing that we’d look less intelligent, not to mention uncultured and unsophisticated, if we ordered a soft drink with a fancy meal. Surprisingly, the opposite is true: job applicants who ordered wine during an interview conducted over dinner were seen both as less intelligent and less hireable than those who ordered a soft drink, according to a new study. . .
 

Zaac

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Well I had religion brought up on me twice this week. Monday interviewer mentioned my attending Bob Jones and he said what he thought about BJU and their legalism. Then the interviewer today brought up religion. At first he said I was "overqualified" for the job and thought I might be one to be arrogant and all. However he said that once he saw my "christian background" he decided to call me in for a interview. It may be illegal but it happens everyday!

Most of them don't even know they can't until it's too late.
 

annsni

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Honestly, I've never heard of an employer speaking about alcohol use at all - unless someone was a drunk at work and fired from their former employer because of that. I've worked in sales with an alcoholic - and never was asked if I minded drinking with clients. I worked in fund raising and never was asked if I would go out to the bar and toss back a few. And if I ever was, I'd just say "That is not a problem." and leave it at that. I certainly wouldn't be specific in my form of drink (Mike's is not the only alcoholic beverage out there nor is it the lowest alcohol - so I don't know why the specification about it). When I went out, I'd comfortably have a seltzer with lime or a virgin Sea Breeze and if asked, I would just say that I'm fine with what I have, thank you. But again, in all of my years working in secular jobs, I've never had an issue with that.

Man, what would a recovering alcoholic do? Not get hired because he wouldn't go out with the boys to go get sloshed????
 

Winman

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Don’t tell him, make him wonder. Pretend he’s your next potential employer and you’re tempted to talk about drinking. :laugh:

I followed his last thread where he got fired for over-performance. I don't know what he did there either. Over-performance doing what?

I have not been in that many job interviews because I tend to work for employers for many years. I have been at my current job 8 years, before that I was with a company 15 years. The only reason I left there was because they closed down. Before that I worked at the same company 10 years, I left there when I moved from Florida to New England.

But from what I remember, we talked about the job I was applying for and skills and experience that would apply toward that job. I don't think I ever once spoke to anyone about drinking, or religion.

I dunno, I just never had a potential employer tell me there would be a lot of cussing on the job. Never came up.
 

evangelist6589

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Honestly, I've never heard of an employer speaking about alcohol use at all - unless someone was a drunk at work and fired from their former employer because of that. I've worked in sales with an alcoholic - and never was asked if I minded drinking with clients. I worked in fund raising and never was asked if I would go out to the bar and toss back a few. And if I ever was, I'd just say "That is not a problem." and leave it at that. I certainly wouldn't be specific in my form of drink (Mike's is not the only alcoholic beverage out there nor is it the lowest alcohol - so I don't know why the specification about it). When I went out, I'd comfortably have a seltzer with lime or a virgin Sea Breeze and if asked, I would just say that I'm fine with what I have, thank you. But again, in all of my years working in secular jobs, I've never had an issue with that.

Man, what would a recovering alcoholic do? Not get hired because he wouldn't go out with the boys to go get sloshed????


http://usfweb2.usf.edu/EOA/interview_faq.asp

Lots of companies out there. Just because you have not experienced it does not mean it does not happen.
 

Zaac

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I followed his last thread where he got fired for over-performance. I don't know what he did there either. Over-performance doing what?

I have not been in that many job interviews because I tend to work for employers for many years. I have been at my current job 8 years, before that I was with a company 15 years. The only reason I left there was because they closed down. Before that I worked at the same company 10 years, I left there when I moved from Florida to New England.

But from what I remember, we talked about the job I was applying for and skills and experience that would apply toward that job. I don't think I ever once spoke to anyone about drinking, or religion.

THAT is pretty normal.

I dunno, I just never had a potential employer tell me there would be a lot of cussing on the job. Never came up.

I just don't see it happening unless you're dealing with a small mom and pop run small endeavor.
 

evangelist6589

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I followed his last thread where he got fired for over-performance. I don't know what he did there either. Over-performance doing what?

I have not been in that many job interviews because I tend to work for employers for many years. I have been at my current job 8 years, before that I was with a company 15 years. The only reason I left there was because they closed down. Before that I worked at the same company 10 years, I left there when I moved from Florida to New England.

But from what I remember, we talked about the job I was applying for and skills and experience that would apply toward that job. I don't think I ever once spoke to anyone about drinking, or religion.

I dunno, I just never had a potential employer tell me there would be a lot of cussing on the job. Never came up.

So your limited experience dictates what the entire world of work operates?
 

Zaac

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Thats EXACTLY what this place was.

I kinda figured it was from what you've said. :laugh: A lot of times they will get a little bit more personal with you because they are a small shop and everyone works so closely together. And they often will tell you about themselves and what they do and offer it up as a segueway to hear if you're okay with it.

But they didn't ask you about condemning anyone or if you drank unless you left that out. In the future, I'd say don't go there with them unless they ask.:thumbs:
 

annsni

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http://usfweb2.usf.edu/EOA/interview_faq.asp

Lots of companies out there. Just because you have not experienced it does not mean it does not happen.

I've never heard of one asking this question other than a place where it may be a problem if someone has a drinking problem. But my husband also said he's never asked anything like this or been asked this question - and he's dealt with Hollywood!! LOL
 

Winman

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So your limited experience dictates what the entire world of work operates?

I have a lot more experience in the work force than you!

I have been working almost continuously since I was 10 years old and had a paper route. All through school I mowed lawns, worked as a dishwasher in a restaurant, worked in construction, I even had my own business building surfboards. I had money all the time.

I have worked continuously since graduating High School, I went to college and held a full time job at the same time. In all these years of work (nearly 50) I might have been out of work a grand total of 2 months. I moved once back in the 70s and it took me a few weeks to find a new job, and my company shut down 8 years ago, took me a month to find a job. Other than that, I have been continuously employed for almost 50 years.

I have a lot more experience in the work force than you. And I know better than to go to a job interview and tell folks I only drink Mike's Hard Lemonade.
 

Zaac

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I have a lot more experience in the work force than you!

I have been working almost continuously since I was 10 years old and had a paper route. All through school I mowed lawns, worked as a dishwasher in a restaurant, worked in construction, I even had my own business building surfboards. I had money all the time.

I have worked continuously since graduating High School, I went to college and held a full time job at the same time. In all these years of work (nearly 50) I might have been out of work a grand total of 2 months. I moved once back in the 70s and it took me a few weeks to find a new job, and my company shut down 8 years ago, took me a month to find a job. Other than that, I have been continuously employed for almost 50 years.

I have a lot more experience in the work force than you. And I know better than to go to a job interview and tell folks I only drink Mike's Hard Lemonade.


I got to admit it is just an odd thing to do. So evangelist, no more talking to interviewers about your drinking habits. Especially no mention of Mikes Hard Lemonade.
 
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