Easy-Believism

[Crabtownboy]

Easy beliefism is faith without works.

Easy believism is faith with no discipleship.

Easy believism is saying when did we see you hungry, naked, in jail, etc.

Easy belivism is putting dogma over submission to Christ and his call.

Easy believism requires no "jump of faith" where all is committed to Him.

 

[InTheLight]

Originally Posted by Iconoclast
InTheLight

using your false idea...were these people not saved because there is no mention of being born from above,ie,born again?

So, in your world these people are false converts because they weren't preached born from above?

You make a legitimate point based on the type of argument he used.

Since Icon is in my killfile, I really shouldn't respond, but since you quoted him...

I never suggested anyone was a false convert. That is the purview of Calvinists. There is no response from me to the question, "So, in your world these people are false converts because they weren't preached born from above"? because it's a diversionary, smear tactic.

I was asking Evan6589 if he considers those people I mentioned in the Bible as false converts since repentance was not mentioned in the text. Evan also started a thread titled, "Is it Necessary to Always Preach Repentance?" Obviously repentance was not always preached so my answer would be no, it's not always necessary, but repentance is intrinsically tied to belief and regeneration.

 

[Revmitchell]

Since Icon is in my killfile, I really shouldn't respond, but since you quoted him...

I never suggested anyone was a false convert

I never read that into your post or icons. So if in fact that is what he meant then that was not what I was affirming. You might want to go back and reread those.

 

[InTheLight]

I never read that into your post or icons.

Here's what Icon said:

So, in your world these people are false converts because they weren't preached born from above?

That is definitely suggesting that I believed people were false converts.

 

[Revmitchell]

Here's what Icon said:

So, in your world these people are false converts because they weren't preached born from above?

That is definitely suggesting that I believed people were false converts.

Ok I overlooked that because I focused on his bigger argument that you may be using an inconsistent argument that will cause you some trouble in some other areas.

I do not support any suggestion that you believe anyone is a false convert. I grow tired of people reading into our posts what they want based on their own flawed logic as if they have presented the only reasonable outcome. Things are never that narrow. Also such uses of poor logic are the cause of much of the conflict and offense around here. Maybe we can just assume the best instead of the worst or at least ask questions for clarification.

However, in his defense it was a question and not an assertion.

 

[Yeshua1]

Since Icon is in my killfile, I really shouldn't respond, but since you quoted him...

I never suggested anyone was a false convert. That is the purview of Calvinists. There is no response from me to the question, "So, in your world these people are false converts because they weren't preached born from above"? because it's a diversionary, smear tactic.

I was asking Evan6589 if he considers those people I mentioned in the Bible as false converts since repentance was not mentioned in the text. Evan also started a thread titled, "Is it Necessary to Always Preach Repentance?" Obviously repentance was not always preached so my answer would be no, it's not ale claim, ways necessary, but repentance is intrinsically tied to belief and regeneration.

Actually, majority of calvinists would just say that a true christian would have some kind of evidence to support their claim to now being saved, so its not mere profession of it!