Elect or Non-elect?

However, many will hear, “I never knew you,” He will not say, “I once knew you, but I no longer do.” If they were in the book of life, how could the Christ make such a statement as that?

 

This is not believing on the Gospel as the type of "seed" the soils are the hearts showing different responses but only some seed took root to belief . This is the difference in accepting the Gospel, not loosing it or any type of election

 

God knows all, this "knew" is a true relationship" now broken by sin. God is saying their relationship was false or over as never existed.

Adam "knew" his wife again. is the sexual relations.

 

Again, the Christ said He NEVER knew them. Knowing them is an intimate relationship, as you correctly stated. If He never knew them intimately, they were never in the book of life to begin with.

 

I think it is a Book Of Creation, or Life as all created beings those who had life

 

Where is the book of creation found in the Bible?

 

Don't read anywhere though where he says to the withered up branches they were never in him.

Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. Jn 15:4-5

He didn't say if you never get in me you will wither up and die. He said if you leave me you will.

 

It is not , the Lambs Book Of Life must be list of created beings ??

 

He said, I am the vine , ye are the branches, We must have been attached to remain in Him..

 

Yes, that's what I meant and I wasn't as clear as I should have been. They must have been attached to remain in him.

 

If you have never been attached then there is no " 6If you do not remain in me, " As in they are attached and remain in him right now.

 

We were attached. according to Jesus

 

He did?
Then their obedience saved them?

" What then? are we better [than they]? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 there is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat [is] an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps [is] under their lips:
14 whose mouth [is] full of cursing and bitterness:
15 their feet [are] swift to shed blood:
16 destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 and the way of peace have they not known:
18 there is no fear of God before their eyes." ( Romans 3:10-18 )

Where does this fit in, then?
If there are none righteous ( obedient ), and it is not by a work of righteousness that one is saved ( Titus 3:4-7 ), then how can God base His decision to save on anything a man does?

 

Which is it? The Book of Life? The book of creation? Are these two the same book? Are they two entirely different books? You’re all over the place. I can’t keep up with your mojo.

 

it is simple, created beings have life, so perhaps the Book of Life is those who have been created and have life.

sounds like you may have a personal problem

 

No problem other than trying to decipher your posts. You said there was a book of creation. I asked you where it is found in the Bible? You then said the Book of Life must be the life of created beings, and answered with a question mark.

The Book of Life has those who are saved in it. So, by using your logic, everybody is created saved, then they become lost. Once lost, their names are blotted out. Then those who become saved again, have their names re-written in that Book. You wanna go this route?

I am not the one with the personal problem, sport. You’re the one with a theological problem.

 

Perhaps Paul meant that in God's eyes
none are truly and perfectly righteous,
enough to satisfy Him.

Meanwhile, God determined to chose some people
before the foundation of the world.
Who might these be?
How about those who loved Him,
and tried their best to obey His commandments?

Also, do you believe that Paul's warning to the believers
in Rome (in my signature) supports OSAS?

 

I think it is a lack of knowledge of logical statements.

It is conjecture that the Book Of Life is only a book of created beings, no biblical scripture.

so follow this:

If you are created being, your name is there.

I do not limit this to a salvation book, as you seem to be, It is the Book of Life , a list who has eternal (spiritual) life.
Why does one need to be saved if they never sinned? Are angels and cherubim in the book, they were created and have life,

If this Book applied to all of creation, then only those whose names are blotted out are missing.

Names are never mentioned to be added but blotted out. The blotted out names do not have eternal life , another word for lost or doomed.

So all creations is listed there, some are condemned, and if they do overcome, their names are not removed. This implies some names ARE blotted out,

This about all we know, scripturally.

 

Was not considering procreation at all. I was only considering eternal spiritual beings as being in the Book
The names are certainly spiritual in nature since most references are from in Heaven as shown in Rev.