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Election, Predestination and Scripture
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Again your breaking your own rules, there is no "IF" a person remains prideful, the grace cannot be resisted. You can't have folks who are tad bit more depraved then others, It is TOTAL not Partial deprivation.
You are not allowed to first start with what Jesus says requiring a qualified quality "not rich" to be saved, then shifting gears and say well it doesn't matter at all.
How hard is it for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle? As usual, you are missing the point spectacularly. The disciples were a pretty thick bunch before Pentecost, but they understood.
'And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, "Who then can be saved?" But Jesus looked at them and said, "With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible"' (Mark 10:24-27).
Have you got that, Ut? Impossible! There is as much chance of you getting into the Kingdom under your own steam as there is for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. Down on your knees with you! Give thanks for the God who does the impossible and praise Him for Irresistible grace!
How hard is it for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle? As usual, you are missing the point spectacularly. The disciples were a pretty thick bunch before Pentecost, but they understood.
'And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, "Who then can be saved?" But Jesus looked at them and said, "With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible"' (Mark 10:24-27).
Have you got that, Ut? Impossible! There is as much chance of you getting into the Kingdom under your own steam as there is for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. Down on your knees with you! Give thanks for the God who does the impossible and praise Him for Irresistible grace!
Why does Jesus teach repent or perish if non-elect can't repent and elect can't perish?
Same chapter:
27Then Peter said to Him, “Behold, we have left everything and followed You; what then will there be for us?” 28And Jesus said to them, “Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29“And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or farms for My name’s sake, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life. 30“But many who are first will be last; and the last, first.
Jesus should have said answered "SO WHAT" to Peter.
You sound proud of that. Calvinist should be the most humble is a statement Calvinist toot the most.
Because you need to repent.
Look, what would any sane man do if he knew that salvation was solely in the hands of God and that God required him to repent?
He would get down on his knees and repent, and pray to God; "O God, I know that salvation is from you alone and I can't save myself. So save me, Lord! Give me that new birth without which no one will enter the kingdom of God! have mercy on me and wash away my sins in Jesus' blood!" And such a prayer God will answer. 'The one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.' It really is as simple as that. What are the redeemed going to be singing before the throne? "Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!" (Revelation 7:10). So ask Him for it!
Utilyan, have you ever known God and His grace given to you? Your bitterness toward God giving you something undeserved and without condition is striking me as being very odd for a Christian.
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