K. Now what?
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K. Now what?
Lol, not a doubt in my mind there's huge difference* between your interpretation of this parable and mine.
*probably a Grand Canyon of difference...
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SavedByGrace
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SavedByGrace
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Let's see your take on the passage
Your eyes and your frame of reference is dramatically different then those who were the audience to the Christ.Unclear? Really? I have read this parable in different Versions, and VERY EASY for me to understand! I think that a 10 year old kid will grasp its meaing with not problems!
It is only UNCLEAR, and in RIDDLES and DARK SAYINGS, to those who cannot accept what the passage plainly, because if they did, the they just might have to abandon some of their pet theologies
It was never a matter of "acceptance" it was a matter of audience preconceptions concerning what they had been taught about the promised one.
As far as whether you understand, well that is debatable concerning some of the statements you have posted.
But, who am I to make light of you. I often must now rely upon others to validate any translation work I do and welcome kindly correction if I have posted error.
SavedByGrace
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Please feel free to correct me anytime
I will.
Really? In that case I am right
Yeah, you're a legend and a sage in your own mind, just like a couple others I know on this board.
You go first, start a thread.
SavedByGrace
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I already have in #2
SavedByGrace
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ROFL!!!! All you did there was arbitrarily cherry pick anything from the parable that had to do with an invite. In no way did you expound upon the meaning of the parable itself.
SavedByGrace
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Check the link in #50
I did, very briefly. Immediately we disagree when you conflate the kingdom of heaven on earth with heaven above.
The parable was prophetic as was most if not all His parables were. The events in the parable can be easily applied, using scripture, to what happened to and during that generation of Christ's day. The kingdom of heaven was taken away from the Jews, who rejected it, and given to the Gentiles, who gladly accepted it.
@SavedByGrace, it's just that simple.
SavedByGrace
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The parable was prophetic as was most if not all His parables were. The events in the parable can be easily applied, using scripture, to what happened to and during that generation of Christ's day. The kingdom of heaven was taken away from the Jews, who rejected it, and given to the Gentiles, who gladly accepted it.
@SavedByGrace, it's just that simple.
this is the reformed way to get rid of Bible passages that challenge their theology!
I understand the view you take, and can be in agreement as to the application in most instances.The parable was prophetic as was most if not all His parables were. The events in the parable can be easily applied, using scripture, to what happened to and during that generation of Christ's day. The kingdom of heaven was taken away from the Jews, who rejected it, and given to the Gentiles, who gladly accepted it.
@SavedByGrace, it's just that simple.
Were we will disagree is the permanency of the Jews from the kingdom.
Such comes from our eschatology approach and will remain as long as you are intransigent in your rejection of a Pre-mill view.
I was listening to the online course from DTS given by the late Dr. Stanley Toussaint. Of course he wasn't a native Texan, but neither am I. But he brought out some wonderful thoughts which I enjoyed and some in which I am still in disagreement but not many agree with me. I am not even unanimous with myself!
No, friend, this is the way bible scholars may share, yet have certain presentations that vary from another.this is the reformed way to get rid of Bible passages that challenge their theology!
Being reformed has very little to do with the things touching the Scriptures when it comes to serious conflicts between scholarship and scholars.
For example, Roger Williams (credited with founding of Baptists - by some - in the colonies) was reformed, but kicked out by the Puritans because they didn't like his teachings.
Jonathan Edwards was rebuked for attempting to evangelize the Native Americans.
John Wesley was run out of Georgia because of ... well some think he was too friendly to a man's wife.
George W. Truett of First Baptist of Dallas was opposed by Frank Norris of First Baptist of Fort Worth over SWBTS placement. But it also had to do with modernism.
And on it goes.
Oh no, what a glorious day that would be if 'the sons of the kingdom' were to come home to the Church. It's their religion, the ministration of condemnation, that's gone forever:
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. Mt 23
21 And a strong angel took up a stone as it were a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with a mighty fall shall Babylon, the great city, be cast down, and shall be found no more at all.
22 And the voice of harpers and minstrels and flute-players and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft, shall be found any more at all in thee; and the voice of a mill shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23 and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that have been slain upon the earth. Rev 18
19 .... Let there be no fruit from thee henceforward for ever..... Mt 21
Yes the statement is true, but it didn't happen to Israel and Jerusalem did it.
The land was never without being found, without music, without instruments of cultivation, without lamps in the dark, without weddings and merchants. Even when the temple was destroyed the city remained viable and fought over for centuries.
Even though many perished, some Jews remained in the land, and have returned to the land, rebuilt the city, and will again establish a temple. But then there will remain so very few after the future tribulation.
But the city, Babylon, that lies desolate in Iraq will rise, and then this prophecy will be fulfilled against that city which from the early days of tower building has always stood against God and is representative of all that oppose God.
...ah, never mind...