Eschatology

[Oseas3]

The Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:. → The Judgment Seat of Christ -> 1Corinthians 5:10.

Romans 16:20→ And the GOD of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

John 12:47-48​

47 If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last Day.→ (this Day arrived, the seventh and last Day ).

Matthew 12:36-37:→ ​

36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment. →(The Judgment Seat of Christ)
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

John 5::22->22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:


John 12:49-50:→ 49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.​

50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak

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2Corinthians 5:10:14->10 We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.​

11 Knowing therefore the TERROR of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto GOD; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
12 For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.
13 For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to GOD: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.
14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

Daniel 7:26-27 →(combined with Daniel 2:44-45, take a look, and 1 Corinthians 6:2-3)

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.​

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose Kingdom is an everlasting Kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him

1Corinthians 6:2-3 → .2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?​

3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? →(angels of the Churches-Revelation 1:20 combined with the entire chapters 2 and 3)how much more things that pertain to this life?

John 5:19-30: → 19 JESUS answered and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He seeth the Father do: for what things soever the Father doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth Him all things that Himself doeth: and He will shew Him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent Him.

24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my Word, and believeth on Him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of GOD: and THEY THAT HEAR shall live.→ (1Thessalonians 4:15-17, take a look)

26 For as the Father(The Word) hath life in Himself; so hath the Father->(The Word) given to the Son to have life in Himself;

27 And hath given Him authority TO EXECUTE JUDGMENT also, because He is the Son of man.

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.


John 6:37-47 - > 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me.

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which He hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last Day.

40 And this is the will of Him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last Day.

41 The Jews then murmured at Him, because He said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.

42 And they said, Is not this JESUS, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that He saith, I came down from heaven?

43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last Day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of GOD. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

6 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of GOD, he hath seen the Father.

47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

48 I am that bread of life.


Revelation 22:11-13 and 16-21

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

John 6:40 - 40 And this is the will of Him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last Day.


Revelation 22:16-20

16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, GOD shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, GOD shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord JESUS

21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.​

 

[37818]

Matthew 24:31, And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

1 Corinthians 15:52, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1 Thessalonians 4:16, For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

 

[Oseas3]

Matthew 24:31, And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

His angels: -> Luke 20:35-36 combined with Revelation 1:20. For better understanding read Matthew 11:9-11, and compare with who is the least in the Kingdom of heaven.

Sound of a Trumpet: -> The Trumpet shall sound:-> 1Corinthians 15:51-53 : -> 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be CHANGED, -> combined with Philippians 3:20-21, take a look
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye(LAST WEEK OF SEVEN YEARS-TWO PERIOD OF 42 MONTHS OR 1260 DAYS), at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

They-the angels- shall gather together His elect (and gthe days will be shortenned->Matthew 24:22. -> But this will happen in perilous time:->Matthew 24:23-26, take a look. ->Be careful, be prepared or else get ready

From the four winds:-> What or Who are four winds: Daniel 7:1-14 combined with Revelation 7:1-14, and so on.

From one END of heaven to the other (END) of heaven. -> Heaven? Ephesians 1:3-10, and so on, where we are now, that is the environment of the New Testament.
->From END of one heaven refers to the END of the Old Testament-Hebrews 8:13, -> and to the (END) of the other refers to the END of the current Dispensation of the New Testament.

1 Corinthians 15:52, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Romans 8:18-21 combined with Philippians 3:20-21, take a look, among other biblical references.

1 Thessalonians 4:16, For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Refers to the Daniel 12:1-3 combined with Revelation 12:7-17

GOD BLESS

 

[JD731]

Here it is: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). I have walked with Jesus for about 70 years now. He is real (historically, spiritually, existentially, however you want to put it), He loves the world, He came to earth to save us. He communicates with me daily through His Word and His Spirit, and it's wonderful!

What do you believe? Premillenialism? Dispensationalism? Amillenialism? Do you believe in a rapture?

 

[John of Japan]

What do you believe? Premillenialism? Dispensationalism? Amillenialism? Do you believe in a rapture?

Yep, Dispensational Premil, Rapture, pre-trib. You?

 

[JD731]

Yep, Dispensational Premil, Rapture, pre-trib. You?

As my Vietnam friends used to say, same-same.

 

[xlsdraw]

As my Vietnam friends used to say, same-same.

Same-Same as well.

 

[37818]

FYI. Dispensational. Post-trib, pre-wrath, pre-millenial, post-resurrection, rapture.


Matthew 24:29-31.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17.
Revelation 6:12-17.
John 11:24.
Revelation 20:1-15.

 

[37818]

I honestly cannot hold a pre-trib rapture.

 

[JD731]

Oh, it WAS indeed a big deal, a fulfillment of a myriad of scripture. I'm referring to the big deal made by those expecting a physical return of Christ here on earth vs His actual spiritual return at Pentecost and in judgement circa 70 AD.

Why is it such a 'big deal' to those if someone actually believes the scripture that they don't believe?

2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
3 And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,
4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

I have a question for men who think like you do and I have chosen to ask you because you will know automatically that I am not trying to be offensive with my question because you know that I like you.

Do you believe Abraham will be resurrected from the dead?

If you say yes, then it will lead to some more questions, one of which is what is Abraham going to think when he finds out God was not serious about these promises?

If God will not keep these promises to Abraham, why would he keep one to you?

13 For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,

Final question. Is an oath from God enough to make the covenant everlastiong?

 

[John of Japan]

I honestly cannot hold a pre-trib rapture.

I have no trouble doing so. I just can't see a new husband (Jesus) putting His bride (the Church) through a tribulation.

 

[37818]

I have no trouble doing so. I just can't see a new husband (Jesus) putting His bride (the Church) through a tribulation.

Matthew 24:29-31, Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matthew 24:22, And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Hebrews 9:28, So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Titus 2:13, Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; . . . .

1 Thessalonians 1:10, And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

Post-trib, pre-wrath rapture.

 

[John of Japan]

Matthew 24:29-31, Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matthew 24:22, And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Hebrews 9:28, So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Titus 2:13, Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; . . . .

1 Thessalonians 1:10, And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

Post-trib, pre-wrath rapture.

Okay. I'm not sure what those Scriptures are for, but I respect your right to take your position. And why do you put "Pot-trib, pre-wrath rapture"? Those are two different positions.

 

[Oseas3]

Titus 2:13, Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; . . . .

1 Timothy 6:12-16
12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

2Timothy 1:10 -> 10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour JESUS Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel:-> (1Corinthians 15:51-55, take a look).


2Thessalonians 1:7-12
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven(shall show Himself from heaven) with his mighty angels,->( Luke 20:35-36 combined with 1Corinthians 15:51-55 and Philippians 3:20-21 and Revelation 21:3-9 )

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting DESTRUCTION from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power;

10 When he shall come to be glorified in His saints (His angels-Luke 20:35-36 combined with Revelation 12:7-17), and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our GOD would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of His goodness, and the work of faith with power.

1John 2:28-> And now, little children, abide in Him; that, when He shall APPEAR, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.

Be prepared or else get ready -> Matthew 25:6-10.

Prepared for the appearance of JESUS

 

[JD731]

Matthew 24:29-31, Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matthew 24:22, And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Hebrews 9:28, So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Titus 2:13, Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; . . . .

1 Thessalonians 1:10, And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

Post-trib, pre-wrath rapture.

The old man will be saved at his coming to the earth. The new man will be delivered at his appearing in the clouds. These are two different men and two different events.