Eschatology

[Oseas3]

Does not support any Biblical "7" thousand year of time.

The Bible support, you don't.

OK, let us accept that as you propose and do the math [just because I like math] ...

1 day = 1000 years.
The devil is bound for 1000 years.
The devil is bound for 1000 x 365 = 365,000 days ... which is really 365,000,000 years!

Assuming the Devil was bound at the Crucifixion and that was in AD 33 (we need to pick a date), then the devil will be released in another 365,000,000 - 2026 + 33 = 364,998,007 years. Sort of casts "eschatology" into a whole different category ... more like the sun burning out than our lifetime.

JESUS, the Greater Light, came in the END of the fourth Day or around 4000 years after Adam(period from 3000 to 4000 years), precisely in the turn of the fourth to the fifth Day, understand? JESUS was crucified around year 4030 after Adam. The fifth Day is from 4000 to 5000 years after Adam. The period ol sixth complete Day is from 5000 to 6000 years after Adam. Now we are living in the turn from the sixth to the seventh Day, I would say it's midnight on GOD's clock time, understand? The period of the seventh Day is from 6000 to 7000 years.

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Matthew 25:6

 

[Oseas3]

I am not a particular fan of "End Times" details (more heat than light in most discussions), however, from the perspective of an overarching narrative ... Satan bound at the cross (diminished power over mankind) and released at the last day "just in time" to be cast into the "Lake of Fire" (completely removed from the picture) fits well with a LOT of other scripture and biblical imagery.

Satan will be released ONLY and ONLY in the END of the seventh Day, around 7000 years after Adam. And around year 3000 on Christian Calendar, for now we are living in the year 2026.

 

[Oseas3]

2 Peter 3:8, But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Now it is my persuasion that thousand years Satan is bound to be the last day of this age.

John 6:40, And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Revelation 20:6-7
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of GOD and of Christ, and shall reign with JESUS a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Revelation 11:15-18

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD(this demonic current world) are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were (WILL BE) angry, and thy wrath is come(GOD'S WRATH-Isaiah 26:19-21), and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[37818]

The Bible support, you don't.

Saying so doesn't make what is not so, to be so.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I am not a particular fan of "End Times" details CRehtfo(more heat than light in most discussions), sgnihhowever, from the perspective of an overarching narrative ... Satan bound at the cross (diminished power over mankind) and released at the last day "just in time" to be cast into the "Lake of Fire" (completely removed from the picture) fits well with a LOT of other scripture and biblical imagery.

I tend towards a higher level of consciousness.. I felt that when I was reborn, grew a conscience and threw out the teachings of the RCC of which I was raised up in. I’m studying much more in teaching that raise my level and encourage that process. Attached is something that explains it well & wether you agree with it or not, try not to be offended.. rather seek to understand, discuss & rationalize.

 

[Oseas3]

Saying so doesn't make what is not so, to be so.

GOD is Truth. Opinion is good for nothing, what matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, understand? -> Not the letter, the letter kills, but the Spirit, GOD is Spirit, the invisible GOD, and He gives Life. By the way, by the letter of the Word, the Word is GOD, which is quick, and Powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, so by which He is able to destroy literally both soul and body in hell-Matthew 10:28.

The Lord GOD is True; He is a living GOD and the King of the world... He has made the earth by His Power, His strength, He has established the world by His wisdom, and has stretched out the heavens by His understanding, by His Inteligence.->Psalms 33:9-> For He said and it came about; He commanded and it endured.

 

[Oseas3]

I tend towards a higher level of consciousness.. I felt that when I was reborn, grew a conscience and threw out the teachings of the RCC of which I was raised up in. I’m studying much more in teaching that raise my level and encourage that process. Attached is something that explains it well & wether you agree with it or not, try not to be offended.. rather seek to understand, discuss & rationalize.

Oséas wrote: Fev 08 , 2022 www.christianforums.com/threads/russia-preparing-for-war.8236020/page-12 Speaking of the WWIII in the Christian site above, my Sister in Christ called Marylin replied my post #227 and she said through post #228: >>> Yes I do remember, thank you and this WAR is looming right now. When God brings the Russian Federation plus some former Soviet nations, and Turkey and Iran, Ethiopia and Libya down to the mountains of Israel then it will be what the world will think as WWIII However we know that God intervenes and judges them. The judgment scroll has not yet been opened for judgment by the Lord, however we do see the line up of the 4 Federations that the Lord brings to judgment.<<< 08-02-2022 --Post #230 My beloved sister in Christ Your thinking is from a human perspective, not from GOD's perspective! I see that the line up of your vision still needs of some corrections to fit with the real and true events that will happen from now on, day after day, strictly, yes, strictly according the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand? GOD is in control of history, nothing random happens. Again: Your thinking is from a human perspective, not from GOD's perspective! I repeat as above said: The only World War that will happen from now on and until the END is written in Revelation 11:15 to 18, and 12:7, combined with Revelation 16:13-16, and Revelation 19:11 to 21, and 1Corinthians 15:24-28. You and ALL must be ready. What does the Word of GOD say? JESUS warned: Matt. 24:v.6-8: VERSE 6 - Ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet. (Comment: This is fulfilling literally and will continue in future by indefinite days, day after day). VERSE 7 - For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: (Comments: Understand, for now the fulfilment of this prophecy is in stand by because we are in the beginning of sorrows. Actually, the extension of this prophecy goes far, very far, inimaginable, because the chastisements have its beginning, yeah, its beginning, but it WILL NEVER END, it WILL NEVER STOP, BUT NEVER, the punishment is ETERNAL, it is for ever and ever, understand? Once the Word of GOD says it is nation against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, understand it, there will not be any kind of "Federation" or Confederations-for examples-, and also there will no be united groups that still there are today as : UN - United Nations Organization NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization OAS - Organization of American States WTO - World Trade Organization UNESCO - United Nations Organization for Education, Science and Culture OECD - Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. BIRD - International Bank for Reconstruction and Development. IMF - International Monetary Fund WHO - World Health Organization ILO - International Labor Organization, ALL, but ALL, will be destroied, will be DISSOLVED, yeah, DISSOLVED, like an GIGANTIC IMPLOSION, by analogy, something like the two TOWERS of the WTC-Word Trade Center, so the confusion or mess is done, in other words, the hell's fire starts to burn, the eternal fire, yeah, forever and ever. For better understand of you and ALL, I remember 2 Peter 3:v.7 to 18: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. FOR NOW, we are in the beginning of sorrows, but the sorrows will be incrased exceedingly and the torment too. -> As is written in Luke 21:v.26-27: , 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Be careful or get ready Revelation 6:v.14-17 14 The heaven (heaven? Ephesians 1:3 among others-Check it- , by the way, the heaven which are now.) will be departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and (by allegory) every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great Day of his wrath is come(the seventh and last Day,or seventh and last millennium); and who shall be able to stand?

 

[37818]

@Oseas3,
We seem to believe the same Holy Scriptures differently.
2 Peter 3:7-13.
Revelation 20:1-Revelation 22:21. Etc.

And for reasons we understand some different.

I am of the persuasion the thousand years of Revelation 20, to be the last day. [2 Peter 3:8].

 

[Oseas3]

@Oseas3,
We seem to believe the same Holy Scriptures differently.
2 Peter 3:7-13.
Revelation 20:1-Revelation 22:21. Etc.

And for reasons we understand some different.

I am of the persuasion the thousand years of Revelation 20, to be the last day. [2 Peter 3:8].

Ydes, for GOD a thousand years. Psalms 90:4->4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, ... What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the woman thought is mortal- Genesis 2:17 combined with 3:22 and 3:1-11, take a look.

 

[37818]

Ydes, for GOD a thousand years. Psalms 90:4->4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, ... What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the woman thought is mortal- Genesis 2:17 combined with 3:22 and 3:1-11, take a look.

What is your point?

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the woman thought is mortal- Genesis 2:17 combined with 3:22 and 3:1-11, take a look.

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[Oseas3]

I tend towards a higher level of consciousness.. I felt that when I was reborn, grew a conscience and threw out the teachings of the RCC of which I was raised up in. I’m studying much more in teaching that raise my level and encourage that process. Attached is something that explains it well & wether you agree with it or not, try not to be offended.. rather seek to understand, discuss & rationalize.

Daniel 12:41 -> many countries shall be overthrown:-> knock down - shoot down

The current notice around the world as a whole is that "Trump says US will do something on Greenland 'whether they like it or not'"", In other words, he says: ""I would like to make a deal, you know, the easy way. But if we don't do it the easy way, we're going to do it the hard way," Trump said."

Everybody who work directly for the powerful MAN above cited, even all politic members of the American Congress, and the rest of the peoples of the world as a whole, they all know not that that MAN was born from and by prophecy, he is an apocaliptic and powerful MAN, according exactly to what is written in the Word of GOD. -> IN FACT, he is the horserider of the red horse. Yeah, the world must know that he is the powerful horserider of the red horse. What does the Word of GOD says about him?

Revelation 6:3-4:-> 3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard...say, Come and see. -> 4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him (to the MAN) that sat thereon to TAKE PEACE from the earth(THIS IS THE FIRST PERFORMANCE OF HIM), and that they should kill one another-> (this is the second performance of him): -> and there was given unto him a great sword.->(By allegory, it means a demonic MOUTH, to speak atrocities and foment them throughout the world). -> Be prepared or else get ready.

He will take Greenland for himself as USA President from its rightful owners or proprietors. He will take Greenland for himself as powerful President of the USA, from its rightful owners or proprietors; no one will be able to stop the Horseman of the Apocalypse from achieving his goal of annexing Greenland as he wishes, understand?

Daniel 12:41 -> many countries shall be overthrown:-> knock down - shoot down


FOR NOW, we are in the beginning of sorrows, but the sorrows will be incrased exceedingly and the torment too. -> As is written in Luke 21:26-27: ,
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Amen.

Be careful or get ready

 

[Oseas3]

What is your point??

My point is only and only one: -> What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. Fear Him.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I and God … he is my Father so I do not fear Him

 

[37818]

The one event

Isaiah 13:10, For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Isaiah 24:23, Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

Ezekiel 32:7, And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.

Joel 2:10, The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

Joel 2:31, The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Joel 3:15, The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

Matthew 24:29, Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mark 13:24, But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light.

Luke 21:25, And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Acts 2:20, The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Revelation 6:12, And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

 

[37818]

John 6:39, And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

John 6:40, And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:44, No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:54, Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:24, Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

Revelation 20:6, Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

My point is only and only one: -> What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. Fear Him.

Actually I’m thinking by your posts that you live in a threatening world for you to see things of the world as you do.

 

[Oseas3]

The one event

Isaiah 13:10, For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

What the Word of GOD reveals about the verse above is as follow: (a partial vision)

About stars -> here's them -> Daniel 12:3 ->3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the STARS for ever and ever.

Why shall not they(the stars) give their light?->Revelation 12:3-4 reveal:->3 And there appeared another wonder in HEAVEN;(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-10, and so on, take a look) and behold a great red Dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.-> (By the way, the main partner and body of the red Dragon is the MAN Beast of the sea->(sea=peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues-> Revelation 13:1 combined with Revelation 17:15, take a look)

4 And his TAIL (TAIL? Isaiah 9:15-16 & 14) drew the third part of the STARS->(Revelation 1:20-, take a look) of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: ... -> HOW WILL THE RED DRAGON DO THIS? -> Isaiah 14:13-14 reveal unto us how the Red Dragon will do, accomplish, this work in the Churches:->
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne ABOVE THE STARS OF GOD: (STARS?dANIEL 12:3, above) I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: ->( sides of the north? Psalms 48:2, take a look)
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.-> 2Thessalonians 2:3-13:-> verses 3-4:-> 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Now let's see an important detail:-> Revelation 12:1->
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the Sun, and the Moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve STARS: (You wrote: Constellations above) -> Amos 5:8-9: -> 8 Seek him that maketh the seven STARS and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name: 9 That strengtheneth the spoiled against the strong(REVELATION 12:7-17), so that the spoiled shall come against the fortress.


---> . . . the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
What will happen from now on, when the Sun shall be darkened in His going forth? And the moon (who receives from the light of the Sun) shall not cause her Light to shine? : -> Revelation 9 shows us how will be the scenary from now on or in days to come, take a look. ->verse 2 clarifies the terrible scenary, as follow::->2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the Sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

What will happen with the woman that was clothed with the Sun, and the Moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve STARS? Revelation 12:7-17 give us the scenary showing what shall happen among GOD's people in days to come.

In fact, the woman fled (will fly) into the wilderness(a dry land, spiritually un unfavorable environment) where she hath a place prepared of GOD, that they (GOD's people) should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.->verse 14 And to the woman were given TWO WINGS of a great eagle,-> i.e. The OLD and NEW TESTAMENTS, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place(Isaiah 60:8, take a look), where she is NOURISHED (by the Word of GOD - Matthew 4:4, take a look), for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Revelation 19:5-9
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the MARRIAGE of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.

Daniel 12:1-3 and 10-12 -> (combined with Matthew 24:15-25 and 1Thessalonians 4:16, take a look)

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the STARS for ever and ever.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Be prepared or else get ready - > Matthew 25:6-10

 

[Oseas3]

I and God … he is my Father so I do not fear Him

Actually I’m thinking by your posts that you live in a threatening world for you to see things of the world as you do.

Yes, I see you do not fear Him. You confess that you do not fear Him, so as all can see you do not fear Him, but it's because the FEAR of Him is the beginning of the wisdom, understand?

Psalms 111:10 -> A good understanding have all they that do His commandments, -> I mean, do His Word as Scriptures say: and his praise endureth for ever.

Solomon wrote: Proverbs 9:10:-> The FEAR of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the Holy is understanding.

My Lord left very very clear, saying: -> Matthew 25:29:-> 29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. -> Terrible, very terrible.