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Evangelicals and RCC working together

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JonC

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You are completely ignoring the obvious link between Catholic and Israelite worship, and making spurious claims about paganry, that isn’t there.
These are speculative assertions with prejudice as a premise not evidence.
It shows no actual link, it feverishly hopes for one.
Pagans drank water as well so...., Hitler drank water so....

How about some historical contemporary quotes of Mithraism being used and included in the Church Fathers Eucharist.

Otherwise it’s just a prejudiced surmise.
No. The Christian and Hebrew religion has many things in common.

I am talking specifically about Catholic paganism.

The difference is not people drinking water. It is one faith borrowing from another. Sometimes false religions borrow from Christianity. But in this case, the Roman Empire blended Christianity with paganism to create a new religion (Catholicism). I'm not saying it was intentional, but it was the result. It is always the result when a faith is compelled upon a people.

I don't have a bone to pick with Catholicism. But I studied ancient paganism long before I encountered the Catholic religion (useless college education before deciding on seminary).

The only people who do not recognize history on this topic are Catholics.
 

Cathode

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No. The Christian and Hebrew religion has many things in common.

I am talking specifically about Catholic paganism.

The difference is not people drinking water. It is one faith borrowing from another. Sometimes false religions borrow from Christianity. But in this case, the Roman Empire blended Christianity with paganism to create a new religion (Catholicism). I'm not saying it was intentional, but it was the result. It is always the result when a faith is compelled upon a people.

This is not evidence, it’s a speculation to fit a prejudicial conclusion.
 

Cathode

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Catholicism converted pagans. In fact Protestantism inherited a Europe that had already been converted from paganism to Christ by Catholics.
 

JonC

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This is not evidence, it’s a speculation to fit a prejudicial conclusion.
No. It is factual. Roman paganism worshipped their gods as Catholics worship when it comes to the Eucharist. This is not how the Hebrew religion viewed the Passover.

Then you have the creation of the Catholic Church when Christianity was married to the Roman Empire. What resulted was an amalgamation of Christianity and paganism.

The Early Church ate an actual meal (see Paul's instruction regarding some having much while others less). Rome changed this to bread and wine as ritual and sacrament. And Rome made this the focal point of worship, just as Roman paganism had maintained the Eucharist as the focal point of their worship.
 

Oseas3

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They are excommunicated Ipso facto, by the very fact they support this sin.

However the Catholic Church will officially excommunicate someone, if they believe that by such action, it will draw that person to repent and change their behaviour.
If they are obstinate and harden their hearts, then there is no point to it, they have made their choice.
When Paul Apostle saw the idolatries and depravity of the Church of Rome, he warned by wrote the Church, saying : Romans 1:18-32

18 The wrath of GOD is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the Truth-the Word of GOD-in unrighteousness
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19 Because that which may be known of GOD is manifest in them; for GOD hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of GOD from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal Power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew GOD, they glorified Him not as GOD, neither were thankful; but became vain in their IMAGINATIONS, and their FOOLISH heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools(MAD),

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible GOD into an IMAGE made like to corruptible MAN, ...(like the defuncts beatified by the demonic vicarivs filii dei, filii of Devil-defunct madre teresa, and fatima, among countless others defuncts).

24 Wherefore GOD also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of GOD into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause GOD gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; MEN with MEN (even abusing of little boys as seen in Canada, in fact all over the world), working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of GOD, despiteful, proud, boasters, INVENTORS of EVIL things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:


32 Who knowing the Judgment of GOD, that they which commit such things are worthy of DEATH, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Unfortunately you believe in the satanic catholic doctrines invented by the vicarivs filii dei, filii of Diabo et caterva, I mean the pedophiles and satanic priests which abuse even of the children as seen in Canada, in fact occurs all over the world.

You believe in devils, in demons, the same ones in which entered the pigs which JESUS cast them out of the man of Gadarah around 2000 years ago, and entered the pederast priests, cardinals and popes, the main leaders of the Roman Catholic Church, as wrote Paul Apostle, and the same unclean spirits of demons entered also in their followers, the earth is infested with catholic sodomites, spiritists, and is even infiltrating false evangelicals, the tares.

But now all will be cast into the lake of fire by the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, self-executable.

Get ready
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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This is spiritual warfare dear brothers and sisters we are all under attack from profound evil… in our governments, in our society in our financial and healthcare institutions and even the churches who have been in league with the devil. I do not point to any fingers of blame but request we as serious and forthright Christian’s put on our armor, that we use prayer in Jesus name as our primary weapon. See until we get together as true Christian believers , intent to share, to be in Christ & cease to fear this devil, he will create havoc and distress and he will win. See the following scripture:

John 10:10
2 Thessalonians 3:3
James 4:7
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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When Paul Apostle saw the idolatries and depravity of the Church of Rome, he warned by wrote the Church, saying : Romans 1:18-32

18 The wrath of GOD is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the Truth-the Word of GOD-in unrighteousness
;
19 Because that which may be known of GOD is manifest in them; for GOD hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of GOD from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal Power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew GOD, they glorified Him not as GOD, neither were thankful; but became vain in their IMAGINATIONS, and their FOOLISH heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools(MAD),

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible GOD into an IMAGE made like to corruptible MAN, ...(like the defuncts beatified by the demonic vicarivs filii dei, filii of Devil-defunct madre teresa, and fatima, among countless others defuncts).

24 Wherefore GOD also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of GOD into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause GOD gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; MEN with MEN (even abusing of little boys as seen in Canada, in fact all over the world), working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of GOD, despiteful, proud, boasters, INVENTORS of EVIL things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:


32 Who knowing the Judgment of GOD, that they which commit such things are worthy of DEATH, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Unfortunately you believe in the satanic catholic doctrines invented by the vicarivs filii dei, filii of Diabo et caterva, I mean the pedophiles and satanic priests which abuse even of the children as seen in Canada, in fact occurs all over the world.

You believe in devils, in demons, the same ones in which entered the pigs which JESUS cast them out of the man of Gadarah around 2000 years ago, and entered the pederast priests, cardinals and popes, the main leaders of the Roman Catholic Church, as wrote Paul Apostle, and the same unclean spirits of demons entered also in their followers, the earth is infested with catholic sodomites, spiritists, and is even infiltrating false evangelicals, the tares.

But now all will be cast into the lake of fire by the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, self-executable.

Get ready
I can also point out that we were killed by the RCC in the past, but perhaps that was Gods plan to get peoples attention to the inhumanity. The pedofelia problem got many peoples attention.

But a serious question, do you pray for them? That God will send the Holy Spirit to open their hearts and eyes… even to a serial liar like Joe Biden who could well use gods grace… especially before he drops dead.
 

37818

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The plain reading gives you the literal meaning, . . .
The plain readings of the texts gives us metaphors.
Matthew 26:26-28, Jesus in His actual body held the said bread and cup!

And in John 6:35, ". . . And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. . . ."
 
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