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Evolution in any form in the Bible?

annsni

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Crabtownboy said:
The reverse is also true. However, no where does the Bible say that evolution is either true or false, just as it does not say that creationsim, as understood today, is true or false.

Also, the word "day" in Gen. 1 is defined as having a morning and evening, which indicates a day as we know it, and not a long period of time. I realize the sun was not created until the 4th day; however, God could still provide light another way. If God says there was morning and evening before the sun was created, I believe it. I believe this indicates that the 24 hour day was created at the beginning, and it was in these 6 days that creation was completed.

As I said there are many meanings that can be fit into these verses. For instance in the morning until evening of his life he was curious would surely mean more than 24 hours. To say that day means 24 literal hours is an article of faith. I have no problem with it or with it being millions of years as we understand time. God did it and that is what is important.



Again the word "day" can have many meanings.

Yes - day can have many meanings but when it is paired with an ordinal number in Hebrew, it means "day" as in a 24 hour period. You cannot make it mean "ages" or anything like that. It just doesn't fit the text.
 

annsni

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Jim1999 said:
that the context in Genesis one is quite clear is an opinion disputed by man theologians. As to time, sometimes it is clear, sometimes it is not. And a day in Hebrew is from morning until evening (nightfall) and still called a day...even if that day didn't start until noon....This is why we get the confusion of days between the crucifixon and resurrection.......

On Friday the day ends when the Jews go to synagogue.........still a day.

A day is not so certain. Then we have one day with the Lord is as a thousand years or a thousand years as one day. It's a drop in the bucket.

Cheers,

Jim

Well then, when a day is as a thousand years or a thousand years as one day, then "Choose this day whom you will serve" really meant that they could decide anytime in the next thousand years. We know that the men marching around Jericho marched for 7,000 years.

Oh - and Adam was really 339,450,000 years old when he died. Does any of that make sense? No. Since a number paired with a day has always meant "a 24 hour period of time" in the Bible, then I'd say God knew what He was saying when He had written down "day". God is not a God of confusion - He's not looking to trick us. Why would He write something that is so confusing? That does not mean what it says?
 

Jim1999

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Well, confused enough. Adam does not always mean Adam the man we know in history. In Hebrew, and in scripture, it also refers to man,,the creation of Genesis 1:27....No mention of the man, Adam, just male and female made He them......Adam's creation is mentioned in the retelling of creation in Gen 2:7...and the writer talks about the man only.the woman came later. Adam was placed i the garden and given the task of naming everything.........it was not until 2:21 that Eve was formed from Adam's rib.........Sure wish I could work that fast in my best years.

Cheers,

Jim
 

Marcia

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Jim1999 said:
A day is not so certain. Then we have one day with the Lord is as a thousand years or a thousand years as one day. It's a drop in the bucket.

Cheers,

Jim

A day can be certain from the context. The "day is a thousand years to the Lord" in context of that passage is a statement showing that time means nothing to God. This is not the context of Gen. 1 which is a very clear, straightforward narrative.
 

Marcia

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Jim1999 said:
Well, confused enough. Adam does not always mean Adam the man we know in history. In Hebrew, and in scripture, it also refers to man,,the creation of Genesis 1:27....No mention of the man, Adam, just male and female made He them......Adam's creation is mentioned in the retelling of creation in Gen 2:7...and the writer talks about the man only.the woman came later. Adam was placed i the garden and given the task of naming everything.........it was not until 2:21 that Eve was formed from Adam's rib.........Sure wish I could work that fast in my best years.

Cheers,

Jim

You brought this up earlier and I pointed out how we can see when adam means mankind and when it refers to the first man, Adam. For example, this is clearly referring to individuals:

And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed. Gen 1.25

The whole story in Gen 1, 2, and 3 show that is it one particular man and woman that God is talking about.
 

Allan

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Jim1999 said:
Fundamental truths held by dispensational believers for over 100 years.
No it wasn't Jim. Some held not all or even most, nor is it part of dispensationalism since dispensationalism is about 'future' events. Why do you seem to continually and intentionally misrepresent dispensationalism? Remember, just because a few prominant people of that time held a view does not mean that view was mainline.
 
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