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Faith? Where does it come from?
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You are making some valid points in defining faith.
Concerning Biblical faith, my faith grows according to my relationship with Christ. The closer I walk with Christ, and the longer I know Him, the more confident I am that He will continue to provide for me and answer my prayers. That is the more I will step out on faith allowing Him to work in my life.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
The more one studies the Word of God the greater faith he ought to have.
--The problem with the Corinthians in 1Cor.3:1-5 is that Paul still had to feed them the milk of God's Word. They had not studied God's Word and were not able to progress in their faith.
Over many years my relationship with my wife has grown. As it grows I am able to put more and more confidence in her and her abilities. It is based on that relationship, just as my faith in Christ is based on my relationship with Christ. It is the object of the faith that is important in both cases.
Perhaps look into the mirror.
No, I don't know it. My interpretation of 2Pet.2:1 has nothing to do with your salvation. As I stated earlier The Bible Knowledge Commentary (and most other non-Cal commentaries) come to the same conclusion. Will you therefore accuse them all of questioning your salvation just because they disagree with your precious Calvinism?
First, realize that it is more accurately translated as a "destructive teaching." Since I have seen Calvinism in general take its toll on local churches in a very destructive way, it should not be questioned that it does.
Second, realize this is a debate board. We even have Catholics, an SDA, a Charismatic, an Anglican, etc. We don't have unity among our beliefs. It is not necessary in a forum such as this. It is an internet debate board. The belief or non-belief of Calvinism is not going to destroy BB. Or do you think it is. If you really think that, then voice your concerns to the other administrators.
No, I haven't. If I have then so has the Bible Knowledge Commentary, The Believer's Bible Commentary, and a host of others. You detest anything that is not Calvinistic. That is your problem.
I didn't use the word "damnable heretic." You are the one throwing around false accusations and lying.
Is this your fourth or fifth straight post without referring to the Bible. It is about time someone else sees your posts, void of the Bible but full of insults. Why are you here? Can't you find a board more to your liking: a board set up with the intent of guiding misled posters into ("how to throw insults") ??
I made my statement very clear.
I said that the definition of faith is when one is fully persuaded that what a person has said that that person will accomplish.
Whether that is in the world of being a suicide bomber, or being a wife, or a politician it matters not. It is still in the arena of faith. What is important with faith is the object of faith. If one does not have Christ and his atoning work as the object of his faith they cannot be saved.
The rich young ruler decided not to put his faith in Christ because he had many riches. He would rather trust his riches than Christ.
Go back and show me where I made one reference to politicians being fully persuaded that Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Why do you continue to twist what I say?
I understand what TULIP means and says.
Bro. Joseph did not take the time to listen to what I had to say concerning that particular doctrine.
Why are you adding to the scriptures?
2 Peter 2:1 And there did come also false prophets among the people, as also among you there shall be false teachers, who shall bring in besides destructive sects, and the Master who bought them denying, bringing to themselves quick destruction,
First it is speaking about false prophets and then false teachers.
Second, it is speaking of one of those false doctrines which does bring "destructive teaching."
That which brings "the false teachers to quick destruction" would be the whole of what they taught, not the one example that Peter gave.
I do not believe that you are either a "false teacher or false prophet" in the sense that Peter is using the word. Nor do I believe that you are headed to swift destruction. But I do believe that the doctrine Peter gives is a destructive teaching. I believe that it is quite apparent in that verse and cannot be denied.
I take my meaning from the clear teaching of Scripture. Paul, through Abraham, gives us a definition of faith. I used that definition of faith. You disagree.Once again you deny the biblical meaning of a word and instead adopt a purely secular meaning in order to deny the clear teachings of scripture.
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Where did I say you said 'damnable heretic'? That's right I didn't! Learn to tell the truth.
And you're concerned with insults? Any person, accept you, can see that in my post that you reply to that there are no insults contained in it, it is simply you thinking that if you say something, that is lie long enough and often enough it makes it true. The people of this board aren't stupid nor do you have enough cred to (not to mention your lying track record) cause people to not question the validity of your statements.
Now go fetch Scripture that say that faith is the same as crossing a bridge, sitting in a chair along with your other carnal illustrations.
What have I misstated? I have never strayed from using this passage as a definition for "faith."
I have been very consistent in this. I have nothing to be ashamed of.
You certainly added to 2Pet.2:1 which was the only verse I used. When you add to like you did you make it mean something I didn't say it meant. That is being dishonest.
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