False Gospel

[steaver]

I mean devoid with no love of God at all, with a hatred and disgust comparable to Satan. Have you met a saved person who hates God?

No. But I have met plenty of unsaved people who love God (as in, their definition of God, not the bible's, and go about to establish their own righteousness ). And so did Paul,

Rom 10:1
Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
Rom 10:2
For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
Rom 10:3
For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Rom 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

 

[JonShaff]

I mean devoid with no love of God at all, with a hatred and disgust comparable to Satan. Have you met a saved person who hates God?

How can a saved person hate God?

 

[JonShaff]

I mean devoid with no love of God at all, with a hatred and disgust comparable to Satan. Have you met a saved person who hates God?

The Question is, Is the 'god' you are loving the One True God of the Scriptures? or are you worshiping a 'god' of your own imagining.

 

[Adonia]

Jesus and paul and John all stated that all it takes is believing into the name of the Lord Jesus, why doesn't Rome?

Because that is not all they said. If that was true, the New Testament would be one page and 8 words long.

 

[Adonia]

There are eoors and mistakes, but the problems in churches like Rcc/Sda moves into heresy, a deniel of the true Gospel!

How do we deny the true gospel? We believe in the good news of Jesus Christ, in His death and resurrection and that He is the Savior. You are of heresy as you deny all the other things that are preached in the Gospel, plus you deny the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist, and that my friend is a heresy of the utmost degree.

 

[37818]

"Love" and "Hate" are not works.

Where in the word of God do you get such a notion?

Jesus Himself cites love as a work of the Law, referring to the two commandments of the Law, to love God and to love one's neighbor.

 

[Yeshua1]

Because that is not all they said. If that was true, the New Testament would be one page and 8 words long.

Gettsaved justified/saved by God ONLYrequires a lost sinner to receive Jesus thru Faith asa their Lord and Savior, but afterwards is what the NT is really all about!

 

[Yeshua1]

How do we deny the true gospel? We believe in the good news of Jesus Christ, in His death and resurrection and that He is the Savior. You are of heresy as you deny all the other things that are preached in the Gospel, plus you deny the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist, and that my friend is a heresy of the utmost degree.

You deny Pauline Justification of the Gospel of Christ, and that would be rejecting the ONLY Gospel given to save lost sinners!

 

[JonShaff]

How do we deny the true gospel?

You still have yet to answer me...What is the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

At what point of your son's salvation was it not between him and God? Of course, that question applies to anyone of God's elect.

How do you know he is one of God’s elect?

 

[tyndale1946]

How do you know he is one of God’s elect?

1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

Brother Glen

 

[utilyan]

No. But I have met plenty of unsaved people who love God (as in, their definition of God, not the bible's, and go about to establish their own righteousness ). And so did Paul,

Rom 10:1
Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
Rom 10:2
For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
Rom 10:3
For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Rom 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Describes you perfectly. I think you are ignorant of God's righteousness.

You believe he is so ticked off at the world he would torture his own son to appease his sadistic pleasure.

A God who is not God at all, but on his knees at the feet of retribution, spite, and revenge.

The pagans also claim that their volcano God has been appeased by throwing the innocent into a volcano.

You are both wrong.

 

[atpollard]

Where in the word of God do you get such a notion?

Jesus Himself cites love as a work of the Law, referring to the two commandments of the Law, to love God and to love one's neighbor.

Quote it if you want to discuss it in context.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

How do you know he is one of God’s elect?

You make a good point. My phrasing was poor. Salvation, at any and all stages, is between God and the individual.

 

[Adonia]

You deny Pauline Justification of the Gospel of Christ, and that would be rejecting the ONLY Gospel given to save lost sinners!

We deny no such thing, we do draw the line however when it seeps over into Christian Reconstruction or Restorationism movements and this then becomes the only basis of Christian thought that places the rest of the Scriptures and the Universal Church to the wayside.

 

[atpollard]

What are the elements that make up a false gospel?

• [Galatians 1:6-10 NASB] 6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7 which is [really] not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed! 10 For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.

1. Deserting Him who called you (Jesus).
2. Disturbing the body of Christ.
3. Seeking the favor of men rather than God.

• [1 John 2:18-25 NASB] 18 Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not [really] of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but [they went out,] so that it would be shown that they all are not of us. 20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know. 21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it, and because no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 As for you, let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 This is the promise which He Himself made to us: eternal life.
• [1 John 4:1-3 NASB] 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the [spirit] of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

1. ‘antichrists’ go out from the body to show that they are not of the body.
2. They have no anointing and they do not know the truth.
3. A FALSE GOSPEL denies that Jesus is the Christ. Denies the Father and the Son.
4. A FALSE GOSPEL denies that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.

 

[steaver]

Describes you perfectly. I think you are ignorant of God's righteousness.

God's righteousness is Jesus Christ, all those born of God, who trust in Jesus Christ, are righteous as He is righteous. What is your understanding of righteousness? Do you have another way to be righteous before God?

You believe he is so ticked off at the world he would torture his own son to appease his sadistic pleasure.
A God who is not God at all, but on his knees at the feet of retribution, spite, and revenge.

You have a distorted view of God. allow God to enlighten you...

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The pagans also claim that their volcano God has been appeased by throwing the innocent into a volcano.

[URL='https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/gal/6/7/s_1097007']Gal 6:7 - Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.[/URL]

[URL='https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/12/36/s_941036']Mat 12:36 - But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment[/URL]

 

[37818]

Quote it if you want to discuss it in context.

You did not answer the question:

Where in the word of God do you get such a notion?

Your notion that "love" and "hate" are not works.

 

[utilyan]

God's righteousness is Jesus Christ, all those born of God, who trust in Jesus Christ, are righteous as He is righteous. What is your understanding of righteousness? Do you have another way to be righteous before God?



You have a distorted view of God. allow God to enlighten you...

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.



Gal 6:7 - Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Mat 12:36 - But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment

Then quit mocking God as a monster.

Amen to the bible verses.

None of those even hint a fake Gospel where God pours out his wrath on Jesus. You just going around the issue.

You need scripture to back up the idea God is a monster.


Show us the bible verses that teaches the false gospel of God pouring out his wrath on Jesus.

 

[steaver]

You need scripture to back up the idea God is a monster.

Can't help you out there. It seems you think God is a monster because He executes His judgment upon the wicked. Tell us, what is God going to do to those who do not obey Him?

Show us the bible verses that teaches the false gospel of God pouring out his wrath on Jesus.

Can't show you any false gospel, bible has none, but I can show you the passages you are denying.....

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