Featured "Finished work on the cross."

I wrote that in his death and resurrection, all was accomplished needy to save us!

 

I have not said that., His Resurrection is not part of your salvation

 

Until you can tell me what "tetelestai" means in the greek or transliterated and how was it commonly used in Jesus day then you have no argument. The hill doesn't mean the upper room, the alter does not mean the table etc. it is an absurd attempt to connect things that are not connected in the way you are asserting. So tell me the meaning and the common use of "tetelestai". Then we can talk.

 

He said it just before He died , as the verse shows?

Did you prefer He said t after He died?

 

Hyssop was a plant used by moses to sprinkle the blood of the paschal Lamb on the posts and lintels, it was also used as a medium to seal the covenant with Israel. It should be a hint given us by St. John as to just what was happening at the crucifixion.

In the sacrifice of the Pascal lamb the blood of the lamb was “sprinkled upon the people”. This blood was a covenant. Hyssop was used as a medium to seal the covenant [bind the deal] with the people with the blood from the sacrifice, to consummate the covenant. Jesus fulfills every tittle, every jot of the Prophetic Law. [Matthew 5:18][ Luke 16:17] requiring sealing the deal; “And he took the blood and sprinkled it upon the people, and he said: This is the blood of the covenant which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words." [Exodus 24:8].

Over the cross was the title of Christ, “JESUS OF NAZARETH, THE KING OF THE JEWS”, (King of the Jews was the Messias), written in three different languages. A chief priest was presiding over the proceedings. Hyssop was put to the mouth of Christ, it was finished. Let’s look at the image John presents us with; a chief priest was present, there is a Sacrificial Lamb, perfect in every way, like man in all things, except sin, hyssop is present to transfer the covenant to the people of Israel, the a last drink of wine is taken. What was happening at the crucifixion? [Cf. John 19:29]

Why do you suppose hyssop was present in John’s telling of the crucifixion? Why give the bitter fruit of the vine to drink? What in this world was being consummated, “finished", "telelestai"?

JoeT

 

You and I fulfill, when God fulfills He perfects.

JoeT

 

The Eucherist has NOTHING to do with salvation, as that was the work of Jesus on that Cross that secured that for lost sinners!

 

What does "tetelestai" mean transliterated and how was it commonly used in Jesus day?

 

The Eucharist has everything to do with your salvation. Moses said, "This is the blood of the covenant which the Lord hath" and he sprinkled blood on the people, [Exodus 24:8]. Christ perfects (fulfills) the prophetic Law saying "For this is my blood of the new testament" [Matthew 26:28, likewise Mark 14:24; Luke 22:20;Hebrews 12:24; 1 Corinthians 11:25].

Hence, without the Eucharist, you have nothing more than a Roman syle hanging; without the Eucharist, you don't have payment for sin; without the Eucharist, you don't have a covenant; without the Eucharist; without the Eucharist you don't have the incarnation. In short you god becomes a myth.

JoeT

 

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"Telelestai" means to bring completion or perfection, we use consummated, finished, fulfill. An example is consummation in a marriage - it is not marriage until it is perfected in a certain way within or at a certain time and will remain or continue to be a marriage thereafter.

In case of Christ at the crucifixion, it is consummated, finished fulfilled, with my death, his last words, and it is finished

JoeT

 

Jesus was NOT referring to physical blood and flesh being consumed by us there, but that His death would be the atonging sacrifice for sins! One can take Mass every day, and still go to Hell, as one must receive Jesus as Lord to get to heaven!

 

According to John 19:28 with John 19:30 it can be understood Jesus completed the atonement prior to His physical death. He in His soul having shed His blood for sin, His soul was dead on the cross, Isaiah 53:10-12; Psalms 22:1 & Psalms 22:6, suffering on the cross for the lost, Mark 9:48. And having completed this, His soul alive, He physically died, His soul alive into Sheol/Hades to be raised from the dead, Acts of the Apostles 2;27. Yes, more can be said on this.

 

The body of Jesus was the one that he died in on the Cross, and His blood was shed there, as per Hebrews, one time only event, NEVER needed to be repeated, as the Mass does daily!

 

How many human bodies does Jesus Christ have? Does He put these bodies on like I put on a good suit?

JoeT