Even the Mormons would hold to the Kjv being correct only as "far as it was correctly translated"
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very few EVER held to English translation as being as ther KJVO in church history, as we held to the Originals ONLY as being perfect and inspired!
There would be none!
The perfect words of God are only found in the Originals when penned down!
Which was corrected and amended in later Scofields!
George Antonios
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You need to step out of the West every once in a while. Do you realize how many Arabic born again Christians believe that their SVD is perfect?
George Antonios
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As already noted, you never address the other's points, just repeat your beliefs. So we can't really have a conversation.
But they're pretty delineated in Scripture.
1689Dave
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You can make scripture say whatever you want.
The position that only the originals were inspired and perfect is THE view in Church History among conservative bible believing Christians until KJVO!
The Muslims would in their Koran!
George Antonios
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It's a sad day when Muslims believe their copy is perfect and Christians don't.
By the way, the Muslims got that view from the Christians.
Jesus Himself is the perfect word of God!
Most historical Scriptural truths are self-evident.
I stopped after that point.
Dave G
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He told Paul to remind Titus of these things, roby:
" Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
2 to speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, [but] gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men." ( Titus 3:1-2 ).
Showing meekness ( gentleness ) is not "counter-attacking" them...
That is man's way of doing things, not God's way.
Quite the contrary, the Lord Jesus point-blank tells us this:
" Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." ( Matthew 7:12 ).
See also Galatians 5:14, Romans 13:10, Luke 6:31, James 2:8.
Part of ministry is to speak the things that become sound doctrine, and to rebuke those in the church that hold to them...
and if necessary, to reject those that attempt to divide the body over false doctrines ( Titus 2:10-11 ).
But we are never to treat anyone badly for any reason, roby.
That is against His express commands.
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Dave G
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That's because He is God, and has the right and authority to do such things.
He also knows the hearts and minds of men...
You and I do not,
neither do we have any excuse for bad behavior towards our fellow man.
Not in that case, no.
Please see Romans 12, my friend.
We are to follow His words, and there's plenty in His word that tells us how we are to behave.
That said,
It seems that you believe that you can toss out His commands regarding personal conduct, so that we as believers can go on some sort of crusade against those who oppose us;
If I'm in error about this, then I ask your forgiveness...
But if I am not,
then I'll state it again so that it's clear for all who read it:
There is nothing in God's word that gives the believer in Jesus Christ the leeway to attack anyone for any reason.
That was the Old Testament and the Law of Moses, not the New Testament in His blood.
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Dave G
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The Holy Spirit is the believer's Teacher ( 1 Corinthians 2:6-16, 1 John 2:20-27 ) who leads them into all truth ( John 16:13 ).
God's people, while they may be carried about with every wind of doctrine for a time ( Ephesians 4:11-16 ),
have teachers and preachers to guide them to God's words.
He provides the shepherds for the very thing that it seems you're concerned about, so He's already got that all covered, roby.
Believers are in His hands from the moment He created them for Himself to the moment He calls them home...
Our words are not the deciding factor, but God does use the words of His pastors and teachers to direct His children to what His words say.
I understand your concern, but again, God's word doesn't give us any reason to attack anyone.
I agree, and for every scratch that Satan has, the Lord has a people whose ears do not itch.
Remember reading this?
" He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God." ( John 8:47 ).
In other words, the only ones whose ears "itch",
are the ones who actually have an itch to scratch.
God's people don't have itching ears, they only have ears for His words...
Not man's.
Please see John 10:4-5, John 10:27 and many others.
When it comes to His children, He loves them enough to correct them from His word;
He doesn't leave them at the whim of false teachers and preachers for long periods of time.
That said, I wish you a good evening...
and may God bless you with much wisdom and patience, my friend.
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This is true only for those who have yet learned to discern spiritual things. A more mature Chriatian can pick up a KJV, a NASB, or NIV, or HCSB, or ESV and they can read the perfect words of God.
You describe many of your posts. You do not address the scriptural truths and facts that are problems for your reasoning. You just repeat your belief in assertions that are not true and in claims that have not been proven to be true.
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