Flawless Bible Poll

[Paul from Antioch]

I believe God has made His word known to us as HE has chosen for us to have it.

You're correct to a point. What God wants us to be & do IS revealed in His Word! What He's seen fit to NOT reveal to us.....He hasn't. IMHO we try to make the created THE one to tell God what He should & shouldn't do. Wasn't that what LUCY FUR tried to do??!!??

 

[robycop3]

You always leave me scratching my head trying understand the way you think, because you have no facts or evidence to support your myth either.


I don't see KJVO people on here trying to defend KJVO. I see people, like me, defending the KJV. Big difference. Some claim church splits, accusations of not being saved, etc. I don't see any of that on this forum. How about you guys take your arguments to those people that you say are making those claims. You're accusing people who post here that, as far as I can see, made none of those claims. MY problem is that I see a couple people constantly attacking a Bible version that numerous people have used their entire lives, grouping everyone who takes offense at their bashing the KJV as being KJVO when they have no idea whether they are or not, and then attacking them for it.

I believe you know the KJVO side started the ad-hominem attacks to try to make up for their lack of facts supporting their doctrine, which is clearly man-made. And what brings about attacks on the KJV itself is the claim that "the KJV is perfect".

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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[Yeshua1]

This is true only for those who have yet learned to discern spiritual things. A more mature Chriatian can pick up a KJV, a NASB, or NIV, or HCSB, or ESV and they can read the perfect words of God.

the perfect words of the Lord were reserved only in the originals!

 

[Baptist4life]

I believe you know the KJVO side started the ad-hominem attacks..................

No....I don't know that at all.

 

[1689Dave]

Jesus said Jerusalem would be destroyed. It was. Jesus said not one stone of the temple would be left upon another. Fulfilled exactly. Had they had our news media, it woulda been deen from their armchairs.

The world will end too. But how? We'll need to wait and see. You don't know the details until God fulfills them.

 

[1689Dave]

But so far it's been fulfilled QUITE-LITERALLY.

How so?

 

[Dave G]

@George Antonios:

Apologies for my replies that are off-topic, but I'd like to make one more effort to get through to roby in the hope that he will listen to God's words.

I assure you, if someone tries to harm me or my family, that one's gonna be treated badly. That's entirely within Christianity.

No, it is not.
In fact, what you are advocating is entirely within man's methods of solving problems, and not God's.

And remember, Jesus told the apostles to keep some swords handy.

Would that be the same Lord Jesus Christ who said, " Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." ( Matthew 26:52 )?

Respectfully,
I think that you should look at that again.

Physical violence aside, those who spread false doctrines should be called down for it.

I understand your feelings on the matter, and I also agree with you.
What I don't agree with is how you would have them "called down" for it.

Those who promote false doctrines are leading others astray, and DOING SATAN'S WORK, even if those "leaders" are Christian. After all, Satan is the inventor of all false doctrines of faith/worship.

I agree, except to say that I believe that those who actively and unrepentantly promote false doctrines are not Christians in the biblical sense ( and never were ),
even if they loudly profess Him as Savior.

 

[Dave G]

Now, here's something you can't deny: more than one KJVO says, "If youse aint a'usin' the KJV, youse aint saved!" You cannot deny the veracity of this. And some people wonder why some KJVOs get verbally lambasted...

But not one of us should be verbally lambasting anyone, Roby.
Not you, not me, and not anyone else who believes on Christ.

So, do you think Jesus sinned when He physically tore into the merchants, etc. inside the temple?

Not at all, and I think my point has gone right over your head.
Again, WE are not Jesus Christ, and WE are not God.

What He did was done in perfect righteousness and in the authority of God;
We're not God, and we're not vested with the authority to go beyond His express commandments.

He has established what our conduct towards both believers and unbelievers is to be in many passages.
Romans 12 comes to mind, as does Colossians 3:1-25, 1 Thessalonians 4:1-12, 1 Thessalonians 5:12-22, Galatians 5:13-26, Ephesians 4:1-32 and many others.

There are many things Jesus did which we cannot, such as performing miracles, but He also did many things that any person can do, & we should follow His example in those things.

I agree...
Except for the things where He commanded us, through His apostles, to conduct ourselves in a certain way.

See immediately above for some of the Scripture passages where these are found.

 

[Dave G]

And we are NOT to just stand there & become victims!

And we are not to stand there and bash people who bash us.
We are to commit such things to God...

"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." ( Romans 12:19 ).

And may YOU awaken to the FACT that purveyors of bunk MUST be countered & their blather to be proven false to all who read it.

With respect,
May you awaken to the fact that your attitude about this matter is entirely outside of what the Lord Himself proscribes for our behavior.

That said,
To save us both the trouble of further contention ( and to keep from filling up forum space with reproofs that keep going unheeded, from my perspective ), I will not speak of this to you again.
I'm sure that many here will be relieved to read this ( including you ), but I don't much care about what others think...
I feel that I had to at least try to get through to you.


From here on out I will count you as someone who rejects His words in many areas,
and put you back on ignore so as not to see you constantly bashing people who disagree with you...myself or anyone else.
Simply put, if you cannot be civil, I'll have no part in making any further replies to you.


Good evening to you, sir.

 

[JonC]

the perfect words of the Lord were reserved only in the originals!

Then you have no Scripture worthy to be called God's word. I am grateful for those of us who do for we have what you do not - God's revelation of Himself to man, a standard by which we can test doctrine.

You, on the other hand, do have more freedom in the sense you get to decide what parts of the Bible to believe and which parts to toss out with the garbage as corrupt. But in the end you have a subjective Scripture of your own choosing.

I would not trade God's revelation for your freedom.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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